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For Sport
#11 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 9:04:06 PM
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TPK wrote:
For sport: He had used a contact at the Bureau of Registration who detected ID was fake, he then returned for another search at the lands office only to find the false title documents had been withdrawn (after the fraudsters had confirmed the first search was conducted) and now the right title documents had been returned and were in the name of other people.


Thanks!
(never thought of doing a search twice - I'll file that)
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ballistic
#12 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:54:40 AM
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A businessman conned shs 23m in a land deal in syokimau (sunday nation pg. 20). The land belonged to Mutula Kilonzo. The conmen had forged ID's and title documents. Case in court. Mutula's other other parcel also sold to unsuspecting buyer who subdivided and sold to other unsuspecting buyers. Be careful with land in syokimau and greater athi river.
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QW25071985
#13 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:09:44 AM
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ballistic wrote:
A businessman conned shs 23m in a land deal in syokimau (sunday nation pg. 20). The land belonged to Mutula Kilonzo. The conmen had forged ID's and title documents. Case in court. Mutula's other other parcel also sold to unsuspecting buyer who subdivided and sold to other unsuspecting buyers. Be careful with land in syokimau and greater athi river.


this is just beyond understanding. I really cannot put my finger on it.How can u spend 23m on a land deal and cannot spend ksh 1000.00 to verify the title deeds. Thats absurd.
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Rahatupu
#14 Posted : Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:14:48 AM
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TPK wrote:
Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?


Here I can be handy contact me at rahatupu at ymail dot com. {I'm a document fraud expert}
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Findel
#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:55:46 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
TPK wrote:
Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?


Here I can be handy contact me at rahatupu at ymail dot com. {I'm a document fraud expert}



Rahatupu. Thanks. Please state indicative charges for verifying a title deed and an ID.
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Rahatupu
#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:35:56 PM
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Findel wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
TPK wrote:
Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?


Here I can be handy contact me at rahatupu at ymail dot com. {I'm a document fraud expert}



Rahatupu. Thanks. Please state indicative charges for verifying a title deed and an ID.


@Findel, I specialize in Identity fraud detection which is at the core of Title Deed scam, the way I know, once you unmask the Identity thief or con then title deed fraud is also sorted. Niko na GoK so I won't charge you since the software I use ni sare. I am keen on going solo as a consultant though maybe next year.

In a nutshell send me the ID serial no and ID no I can run a quick check to confirm the real identity of the particular card. Inbox at rahatupu at ymail dot com
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propertyzote
#17 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:03:21 PM
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Reading this thread i get i sigh of relief..for Ksh1000-Ksh250 to verify documents. Thats should be part process of land acquisition. But more so do a thorough back ground checks and trust you instincts.
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bwenyenye
#18 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:36:04 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Findel wrote:
Rahatupu wrote:
TPK wrote:
Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?


Here I can be handy contact me at rahatupu at ymail dot com. {I'm a document fraud expert}



Rahatupu. Thanks. Please state indicative charges for verifying a title deed and an ID.


@Findel, I specialize in Identity fraud detection which is at the core of Title Deed scam, the way I know, once you unmask the Identity thief or con then title deed fraud is also sorted. Niko na GoK so I won't charge you since the software I use ni sare. I am keen on going solo as a consultant though maybe next year.

In a nutshell send me the ID serial no and ID no I can run a quick check to confirm the real identity of the particular card. Inbox at rahatupu at ymail dot com


Thanks for the info @Raha.

On anaother note, if i do an official search at the lands registry and they officially confirm a wrong name, If I lose my money, why should I not recover it from Govt?
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