Wazua
»
Market
»
Pennywise
»
shocking news, what's your take ?
Rank: Member Joined: 6/25/2010 Posts: 415
|
jasonhill wrote:story teller wrote:This is truly shocking news. HP will discontinue its hardware business from October! They will not be supporting any products from that date. Supposedly, they are not making any money selling desktops, laptops, tablets. HP is the largest computer manufacturer in the world. Google and Apple are killing everyone. No more hp desktops, laptops, towers, tablets etc. I am so depressed.
On a more positive note, you can get the HP tablets for a steal now....
How will this affect the computer hardware business globally? Good riddance. It will be better for the computer industry globally. HP hasn't made a great computing product since their LaserJet I, II, III, and IV printers. And Carly Fiorina signed the death certificate for HP.They destroyed Compaq after the merger; the Compaq model for servers was very good, and HP continued to water it down until it was no longer worth the exorbitant price. Don't get me wrong; HP makes a decent server only because they are still using much of the CPQ framework, but, IBM servers are far superior. ILO and Smartstart are the only things keeping HP servers in anyone's rack, but now, everyone has such management tools, especially if you run enterprise-class Linux and choose to visualize and have redundancy- you simply don't need ILO and SmartStart even a fraction as much. Besides, no computer company makes its own products anymore. They all sub-contract out to Chinese factories that make the computers to their specifications versus getting the cheapest parts that they can. So it's largely come down to a battle of branding, save for support, integration, price, and management tools. But still, IBM rules the roost. Apple is second. Dell? Their quality changes with the wind. HP? Consistently less reliable than the three I just mentioned. Not to mention poor, over-heating, flexing, under-powered designs. There is NOTHING like an IBM. I have 17 year old thinkpads still going strong, still usable. Servers older than me, still in production, being used, that are now running Linux! It's like they say; noone has ever been fired for buying IBM. Best, Hill @Jason, couldn't agree more, Carly started this whole mess. It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 6/25/2010 Posts: 415
|
Gordon Gekko wrote:Priorities for HP should be:
1. Printers
2. Printers
3. Printers They are holding on to this...HP make lots of money selling expensive ink. Here is an article from the Wall Street JournalIt's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 301 Location: Nairobi
|
Actually the decision to move from the PC business is mainly driven by challenges(market dynamics) of integrating WebOS to their desktop computing and handheld products.
Besides the eroding margins for desktop computing, WebOS has not generated the required traction to show signs of a possible future in the top tier of handheld devices.
HW manufactures have also been reluctant to adopt the platform, or lets say the move to license the platform (WebOS) to other HW vendors was little a move and too late.
Despite WebOS being a great software platform, it would require a great amount of investment to catch up. They already spent a fortune to buy the platform from Palm. There is therefore no need to continue investing in a high risk business where the long term strategic alliances and acquisitions have been made.
In addition to all this, the consumer electronics industry is foreign ground to the current CEO -too many years in the enterprise world.
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2011 Posts: 946
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 6/25/2010 Posts: 415
|
[quote=QW25071985]Wow. A hp touch pad goin for 8k , lol. http://www.telegraph.co....price-HP-TouchPads.html[/quote] @QW25071985, the 16 gb hp touchpad completely sold out everywhere within minutes! It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
|
Sasha wrote:"Shoot the cash cow instead of milking it dry. Otherwise someone else will shoot it for you and run away with any leftover milk".
HP have been milking their cash cow for too long. They have already closed the Kenya branch (or are in the final stages of doing so)! Like GG says, they should just concentrate on printers! really?
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 11/13/2008 Posts: 1,565
|
its PC business accounts for nearly 40% revenue but only 14% of its profits...makes sense to shed this since PCs have become consumer goods. IBM did the same a while back but it was more timely before the entry of newer players like Acer and Samsung - these two could benefit by acquiring HP's PC business.
|
|
|
Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 322 Location: Chicago, IL, USA
|
I meant virtualize, not visualize :). Spell check got me!
Who ever buys HP's PC business has to realize that they are buying nothing more than a brand name. It's not like when IBM spun off the ThinkPad to Lenovo. Lenovo bought not just a brand but an art and a science of how to make a portable computer that is well balanced in power, heat, battery life, size, keyboard feel, expansion options, rigidity, and production costs. Lenovo even makes other non-Thinkpad notebooks, which are rubbish.
With HP, you just make the plastic shiny, the speakers big, and load it with useless bloatware. Though I will say, I have seen some very pretty screens in a couple of HP laptops, but that's just an option from the Chinese factory that they chose to use that particular week to contribute to the "bling".
As far as the cloud, I would never leverage cloud computing for anything other than multimedia. It's no replacement for proper enterprise storage and applications whatsoever, because it's all dependent on conditions and infrastructure that you cannot control or secure yourself.
I would never trust another multi-national with the storage, security of, and access to my data any more than I'd trust an outsider 1 million kilometers away with my money, kids, and wife.
Cloud Computing is little more than a marketing term. It's nothing special. There has been everything from co-locations to hosting to SaaS for years, and for years CIOs have largely said that it's not worth giving up the control and security of your IT infrastructure and precious data to a for-profit outsider that, when you are nice and stuck, relying on them (and your ISP), will raise the price significantly, and won't consider your concerns a priority- because they have hundreds (or thousands) of other customers, when you need that server diagnosed, or that firewall port blocked in the middle of the night.
We need a local "cloud" in Kenya for small businesses. For medium and large businesses, we just need reliable, CLEAN (can 240V just simply be 240V and not 150V one minute and 300V another!) power and better logistics between Guangzhou and Nairobi via Mombasa.
Best,
Hill
|
|
|
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
|
My HP Pavillion dv6?  Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
|
|
|
Wazua
»
Market
»
Pennywise
»
shocking news, what's your take ?
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
|