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Fake title deeds and IDs
TPK
#1 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:37:09 AM
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Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?
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QW25071985
#2 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:42:49 AM
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Just holla at your bank they'll sort you out.
accelriskconsult
#3 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 10:06:56 AM
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TPK wrote:
Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?



BM Security do it for a fee of less than Sh 1,000- I think Sh 250
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#4 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 1:07:49 PM
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The fake IDs scam happens a lot in Juja. Be careful. Good to know there is a way out
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kiterunner
#5 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 5:10:37 PM
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thanks for letting us know
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QW25071985
#6 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 5:42:05 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
TPK wrote:
Many have lost money to fraudsters who forge Titles and ID to sell plots they do not own. As a precaution, i think it is necessary to have these documents from the purported seller verified before you pay that hard earned cash. I know banks use the services of experts to detect forgery of titles and fake id's using the Registrar of Persons database. Would anyone here have contacts for such experts?



BM Security do it for a fee of less than Sh 1,000- I think Sh 250


thanks. I didnt know they offer such services.
TPK
#7 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:05:11 PM
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Thanks. I will use their services for a plot am in the process of acquiring. I think this will become a necessary service given the mess at most land registries.

A friend of mine smelt a rat in the middle of a land transaction and had to request for verification of the seller's ID and title and was able to save his cash in time. The shocking bit is that his lawyer had done a search which could not detect any anomaly with the title. It was later revealed that the fraudsters had colluded with land officials, so that when the search was requested, the lawyer was given the fraudulent documents but did not suspect since they were after all being issued by the Lands Registry!

All the best as you hunt for plots but please exercise utmost caution - fraudsters are becoming sophisticated.
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For Sport
#8 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:14:28 PM
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TPK wrote:
Thanks. I will use their services for a plot am in the process of acquiring. I think this will become a necessary service given the mess at most land registries.

A friend of mine smelt a rat in the middle of a land transaction and had to request for verification of the seller's ID and title and was able to save his cash in time. The shocking bit is that his lawyer had done a search which could not detect any anomaly with the title. It was later revealed that the fraudsters had colluded with land officials, so that when the search was requested, the lawyer was given the fraudulent documents but did not suspect since they were after all being issued by the Lands Registry!

All the best as you hunt for plots but please exercise utmost caution - fraudsters are becoming sophisticated.


How did your friend do the verification?
TPK
#9 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:30:17 PM
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For Sport wrote:
TPK wrote:
Thanks. I will use their services for a plot am in the process of acquiring. I think this will become a necessary service given the mess at most land registries.

A friend of mine smelt a rat in the middle of a land transaction and had to request for verification of the seller's ID and title and was able to save his cash in time. The shocking bit is that his lawyer had done a search which could not detect any anomaly with the title. It was later revealed that the fraudsters had colluded with land officials, so that when the search was requested, the lawyer was given the fraudulent documents but did not suspect since they were after all being issued by the Lands Registry!

All the best as you hunt for plots but please exercise utmost caution - fraudsters are becoming sophisticated.


How did your friend do the verification?

As long as you're going to be thinking anyway, think big
TPK
#10 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 8:42:51 PM
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For sport: He had used a contact at the Bureau of Registration who detected ID was fake, he then returned for another search at the lands office only to find the false title documents had been withdrawn (after the fraudsters had confirmed the first search was conducted) and now the right title documents had been returned and were in the name of other people.
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