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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#361 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 2:01:41 PM
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No one ever got anywhere using herd mentality!
It's not a time to run away but a time to slowly accumulate for as long as the recession/fears of recession hold. For us it's even juicier, what with looming elections, a weak KES, high interest rates, high inflation etc!
If u can get KK, at sub 10 before 19th Aug with a div of 0.57, pick some few, HF at 17.50 with a div of 50cts, grab yourself a slice!
You will have your cake and eat it!Laughing out loudly
@SufficientlyP
Aguytrying
#362 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 3:10:20 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
No one ever got anywhere using herd mentality!
It's not a time to run away but a time to slowly accumulate for as long as the recession/fears of recession hold. For us it's even juicier, what with looming elections, a weak KES, high interest rates, high inflation etc!
If u can get KK, at sub 10 before 19th Aug with a div of 0.57, pick some few, HF at 17.50 with a div of 50cts, grab yourself a slice!
You will have your cake and eat it!Laughing out loudly


Are we looking at the same n.s.e my friend? kk hasn't gone below 11.00 let alone 10.00. And you are posting this on today the day it goes ex after its been above 11.00 all this time. highly doubt in the time we have left until market close it will go there.
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the deal
#363 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 4:27:26 PM
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erifloss
#364 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 4:40:07 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
No one ever got anywhere using herd mentality!
It's not a time to run away but a time to slowly accumulate for as long as the recession/fears of recession hold. For us it's even juicier, what with looming elections, a weak KES, high interest rates, high inflation etc!
If u can get KK, at sub 10 before 19th Aug with a div of 0.57, pick some few, HF at 17.50 with a div of 50cts, grab yourself a slice!
You will have your cake and eat it!Laughing out loudly

First are you in your 20's, 30's, 40's or 50's. I think that will & should guide your risk apetite. I remember in Feb guys were still talking of accumulation, well the reality is the NSE index has dropped by 20% since then. We all know we are in the game to make money & not to fall in love, sit down & do your analysis of the exchange & you'll realise that our market is always up when foreigners come in & as it stands now most of them are liquidating their risky assets in all parts of the world & Kenya is not immune. I see 3200 by November maybe even earlier. Everday we see new lows thus accumulate wisely & always be ready to see your invesment go in the red in a way that even the dividends can't mitigate.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#365 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 4:41:26 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
No one ever got anywhere using herd mentality!
It's not a time to run away but a time to slowly accumulate for as long as the recession/fears of recession hold. For us it's even juicier, what with looming elections, a weak KES, high interest rates, high inflation etc!
If u can get KK, at sub 10 before 19th Aug with a div of 0.57, pick some few, HF at 17.50 with a div of 50cts, grab yourself a slice!
You will have your cake and eat it!Laughing out loudly


Are we looking at the same n.s.e my friend? kk hasn't gone below 11.00 let alone 10.00. And you are posting this on today the day it goes ex after its been above 11.00 all this time. highly doubt in the time we have left until market close it will go there.

@Aguy, honestly thought today was way before 19th Aug.
Too bad, can't get KK below 9 cum div, but yes, xd its possible if the global markets continue plummeting! And it could even be next week!
@SufficientlyP
hisah
#366 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 5:14:10 PM
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NSE closes @3546. First time after many weeks of lower lows. Now we have the first lower high close and forming a hammer candle pattern pinned @3501 which was the low this week on Monday 15th. Last week NSE closed @3511 on Friday 12th.

The bounce continues... smile
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Cde Monomotapa
#367 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 5:26:07 PM
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"lower lows" LMAO good summary.
the deal
#368 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 7:05:10 PM
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The Week In Review

Bulls and bears make money,

Centum gained 11% this week..Applause Applause Applause

Read the article here http://www.contrarianinv...-losers-at-the-nse.html
alustaadh
#369 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 7:25:10 PM
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hisah wrote:
NSE closes @3546. First time after many weeks of lower lows. Now we have the first lower high close and forming a hammer candle pattern pinned @3501 which was the low this week on Monday 15th. Last week NSE closed @3511 on Friday 12th.

The bounce continues... smile

the big boys are playing you. the current rally is the red herring to LURE the omena back into the basket..........Pray Pray Pray waiting for 3,000 mark
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#370 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 9:09:17 PM
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The question isnt if there at bounce or nt but are you enjoying the current bounce ?
We have waited for quite a while for this bounce so make sure you server the moment.
Cde Monomotapa
#371 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 9:28:22 PM
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With the 2 tenders in KK's possesion...sub 10 XD might be a fleeting illusion Laughing out loudly Process managers win smile
youcan'tstopusnow
#372 Posted : Friday, August 19, 2011 11:48:33 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
With the 2 tenders in KK's possesion...sub 10 XD might be a fleeting illusion Laughing out loudly Process managers win smile

While other stocks rallied just for the sake of rallying, KK couldn't even rally for cum-dividends sakeSad
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guru267
#373 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 7:37:54 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:

While other stocks rallied just for the sake of rallying, KK couldn't even rally for cum-dividends sakeSad


@youcant my broker tells me a big foreign shareholder was selling out at 11.1-11.3 so the price couldnt rally..
Right now kenol is one of those stocks you lock away in ur closet and sit on a very FAT dividend until capital gains start coming in...

As this already cheap stock becomes even cheaper next week, its time to continue buying..
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Cde Monomotapa
#374 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:01:55 AM
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I disdain those lines: "my broker told/called/emailed me" being made to feel "special"
Cde Monomotapa
#375 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:03:51 AM
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Coz more often than not, "..that's how U get Timbaland up!" - Nas.
Cde Monomotapa
#376 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:11:30 AM
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But in terms of "Ponyoka na KK XD" I am also more than willing to relieve the doomsayers.
youcan'tstopusnow
#377 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:27:09 AM
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guru267 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:

While other stocks rallied just for the sake of rallying, KK couldn't even rally for cum-dividends sakeSad


@youcant my broker tells me a big foreign shareholder was selling out at 11.1-11.3 so the price couldnt rally..
Right now kenol is one of those stocks you lock away in ur closet and sit on a very FAT dividend until capital gains start coming in...

As this already cheap stock becomes even cheaper next week, its time to continue buying..

Yeah. If those crazy prices guys are talking about do materialise (sub 9), that will be a crazy valuation. Hope you are also looking at Centum also. The stock went as low as 15.90. But should wait after the bonus shares hit the market then dive in. Will the company profits be as affected as some insurance companies have been by the slump of the NSE? Well only 26% of its portfolio is in QPE. There is the cash from horton's Carbacid. 2 divestures by end of the financial year plus at least 1 acquision
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youcan'tstopusnow
#378 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:37:25 AM
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hisah, I never heard you talk of how the charts are lookingfor the following stocks: KCB, CENTUM, MUMIAS, SASINI
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youcan'tstopusnow
#379 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:40:25 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
@Hisah, maybe a could add some............
4) When the market is forced to open late or
close early because of a "technical error in
the ATS"
- This happened in Jan 2009!
5) When brokers take it upon themselves to call
their clients/emailing them buy proposals of
some specific stocks and urging them to take
the plunge citing IT'S TIME TO BUY!
6) When a day passes and not a single thread or
post has been made here in Wazua!
7) When u visit the brokers office and you are
the only client.
- I saw this in Oct 2008 and Mar 2009 when the
index sank to 3,300 and 2,300 respectively!



SPt, all but one (number 4) of your conditions have already occured
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guru267
#380 Posted : Saturday, August 20, 2011 8:50:54 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:

Yeah. If those crazy prices guys are talking about do materialise (sub 9), that will be a crazy valuation. Hope you are also looking at Centum also. The stock went as low as 15.90. But should wait after the bonus shares hit the market then dive in. Will the company profits be as affected as some insurance companies have been by the slump of the NSE? Well only 26% of its portfolio is in QPE. There is the cash from horton's Carbacid. 2 divestures by end of the financial year plus at least 1 acquision


@youcan't I never invest in stocks with similar business model and except insurance jub and centum are both private equity firms in real estate and power generation..

That said, centum is dirt cheap so any longterm investor is bound to make a serious killing getting in now.. Theyve been diversifing out of the NSE but I dont know if their new projects have started to pay off in 2011 but there should be some serious gains on asset sales in 2011.
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