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ATM and Strangers
bkismat
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:54:29 AM
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Got this in my e-mail. Don't know whether it is true but you never know.

Quote:
TRUE STORY

"While one of the employees of our group company was withdrawing cash from an
ATM machine in nairobi, a stranger approached him and asked our employee to help
him (the stranger) to withdraw cash from the machine as he was not familiar with
the procedure. He gave his ATM card and PIN number to our employee.
Our employee was kind enough to help him and withdrew 30.000 thousand from the
machine on behalf of this stranger.
After a few days our employee was arrested by the CID police, as the camera at
the ATM machine had photographed him while he was withdrawing the cash.
Apparently the ATM card was a stolen card and the stranger had used this method
so that he does not get identified using the stolen card. "

We caution all employees and friends to avoid helping strangers in such acts.

Please Pass it round as lesson to others.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt...
-Mark Twain
Elder
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:02:02 AM
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So this stranger approached him well outside the coverage of the ATM camera and stayed that far off as he approached the ATM all alone to help the stranger withdraw the money? If the story is true then the police should add a charge of utter stupidity to his charge sheet and Kibaki should throw in an Order of HIgh Morons title his way on his inevitable conviction.
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QW25071985
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:05:26 AM
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Spend.thrift
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:08:01 AM
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@Bkismat,

Scary but when the fear is all gone, I reason this way.

1.If the criminal entices many people at different ATMs, the camera will show different faces, perhaps at different ATMs and in quick succession..unless the ac. has only 30K and its all taken once.

2. Each of the faces will also be associeted with another transaction at the ATM before or after the fraudulent withdrawal. Unless the CID are extremely lazy, they will have to get another think coming their way.

3. Most ATM lounges are manned by CCTV cameras which will record the happenings like a movie..so unless this took place at one of those remote cubicles where only the ATM cam only snaps the face of each user, it should be pretty easy to solve. And again, I don't know if someone would convince me to get into that cubicle under the guise of helping him or her to use his/her own ATM.

But the stay safe tips are;
-where possible, make withdrawals at ATMs located in bank branches, there is always a guard in or near the lounge.
-If you are approached for help, motion the guard to provide the assistance..even if its being requested by an enticing woman.
-If you have to use the remote ATMs, usiingie kwa hiyo kabox if you do not feel safe enough...at least leave someone watching closely in the car or there should be at least some guys waiting to use the same in queue.
StatMeister
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:40:38 PM
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Sounds untrue, why didn't the card holder block it immediately it was lost / stolen?

@Spend, the quickest succession is after midnight, then 24 hrs onwards. This trick only used to work when some ATMs were off-line.
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Spend.thrift
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:39:09 PM
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StatMeister wrote:
Sounds untrue, why didn't the card holder block it immediately it was lost / stolen?

@Spend, the quickest succession is after midnight, then 24 hrs onwards. This trick only used to work when some ATMs were off-line.



Statmeister true....but also depend on the ATMs daily limit. It could be more than 30k per day meaning the criminal doesn't have to wait for midnight, if the ATM receipt indicates some nice balance as "Available"
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