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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
youcan'tstopusnow
#321 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:17:25 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Anything below 10 and huge bids likely to be seen...


lets nt argue my friend sub 9.00 will print. Upende usi pende . Lol

Sure. Just like KPLC rights was UNDERSUBSCRIBED?;-)
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
hisah
#322 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:23:24 AM
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cnn wrote:
hisah wrote:


Kenol - still holding up waiting for books to close then the slide begins while Total will head the other way - sector counter money rotation.

To what level are you calling KK ex-dividend?

9.50 is the 1st stop then 9/-
Sub 9, the support is not strong in 8s, so 7.90 should be a better resting floor.
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hisah
#323 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:33:17 AM
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NSSF funds coming soon... The fund expects the managers to return 4% p.a. above inflation rate!

The keyword here is trading not investing. Managers will likely trade to meet that heavy target. Trading with retirees funds! That makes my stomach to turn...

On the bright side high volume counters will be the trading target since the funds are huge. Safcom, equity, coop, kcb etc. Bonds too will get a lift.

As a trader I dont mind being backup up by such funds smile

http://www.businessdaily...4/-/vpqp0yz/-/index.html
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QW25071985
#324 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:48:10 AM
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[quote=hisah]NSSF funds coming soon... The fund expects the managers to return 4% p.a. above inflation rate!

The keyword here is trading not investing. Managers will likely trade to meet that heavy target. Trading with retirees funds! That makes my stomach to turn...

On the bright side high volume counters will be the trading target since the funds are huge. Safcom, equity, coop, kcb etc. Bonds too will get a lift.

As a trader I dont mind being backup up by such funds smile

http://www.businessdaily.../-/vpqp0yz/-/index.html[/quote]

this is what we call broken news. Lol. But shld be intresting when they start pumping money in.i hope they will buy mumias. We technical analysts here better start watching the money flow index.
Cde Monomotapa
#325 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 8:57:49 AM
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They should embark on propping up their current holdings 1st n foremost Laughing out loudly
Cde Monomotapa
#326 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:02:56 AM
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KCB Custodial. ROAR!!
QW25071985
#327 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:21:35 AM
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Yep. If u wanna ride the nssf wave better stock up on very liquid stocks. Even my speculative a.k will get a boost, lol. Lets get positioned.
Cde Monomotapa
#328 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:39:59 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
Yep...Even my speculative a.k will get a boost, lol.

Go back to bed and dream on comrade! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly sub 3 ndo zenu.
QW25071985
#329 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:45:46 AM
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And for those people who thought i was crazy calling for a bottom when this nssf money hits the stockmarket u'll know i wasnt jokin.and it will hit pretty soon after all they have a target to meet .
I just cannt get myself to anticipate another selloff. Both fundermentally and technically.
So guys you better start loadin up now.
guru267
#330 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:03:45 AM
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hisah wrote:
hisah wrote:


Kenol - still holding up waiting for books to close then the slide begins while Total will head the other way - sector counter money rotation.


9.50 is the 1st stop then 9/-
Sub 9, the support is not strong in 8s, so 7.90 should be a better resting floor.


@hisah I planned a major entry into kenol which I have completed halfway but at 8 bob ex div we're dealing with a forward P/E of 3 which is just screaming to be bought..

I will purchase the next half of the shares in Kenol 3weeks - 1.5months after it goes ex div because the price looks VERY exhausted at 11-12 and this might see considerable selling pressure but not for that long and hence will be a buying opportunity..

At the levels of 7.9 as you mentioned gives a dividend yield of somewhere at 15% for 2011... THATS INSANE!!!
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Cde Monomotapa
#331 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:23:20 AM
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guru267 wrote:

At the levels of 7.9 as you mentioned gives a dividend yield of somewhere at 15% for 2011... THATS INSANE!!!

Hebu tell him.
QW25071985
#332 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:36:32 AM
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At 7 bob is a no. Thats just impossible
murenj
#333 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:58:45 AM
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there are signs that the good counters are being moped up.........but lets wait for the next round of bad news.......
QW25071985
#334 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:10:33 AM
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murenj wrote:
there are signs that the good counters are being moped up.........but lets wait for the next round of bad news.......


indeed i am also waiting for q3 figs especially for banks. If prices hold, it will reaffirm my theory that we have bottomd.
ecstacy
#335 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:13:47 AM
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murenj wrote:
there are signs that the good counters are being moped up.........but lets wait for the next round of bad news.......


http://uk.reuters.com/ar...al-idUKL5E7JG0QL20110816
hisah
#336 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:49:57 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
guru267 wrote:

At the levels of 7.9 as you mentioned gives a dividend yield of somewhere at 15% for 2011... THATS INSANE!!!

Hebu tell him.

Charts don't lie as well as volume smile

Equity is @20, remember... And many more hints smile

During downtrends Mr. Market listens to buyers and not sellers.

@guru - would you prefer to buy at 9/- or at 7/-
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QW25071985
#337 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:00:30 PM
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Okay if the charts are pointing to sub 7.00 i know better not to argue with the charts.
Lets wait and see.
the deal
#338 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 12:41:33 PM
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@hisah what charts are you looking at to suggest a sub 8 price? Just look at the volumes before book closure...supply that has kept us below 12 bob is being mopped up fast...if you follow KK you will know that 10 bob is its long term resistance...i expect that to be the new support...thus I dont expect price to dip below 10 bob anytime soon maybe next year...
murenj
#339 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 1:24:00 PM
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TLC@ 38.50. ARE WE DONE YET?
hisah
#340 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:15:12 PM
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the deal wrote:
@hisah what charts are you looking at to suggest a sub 8 price? Just look at the volumes before book closure...supply that has kept us below 12 bob is being mopped up fast...if you follow KK you will know that 10 bob is its long term resistance...i expect that to be the new support...thus I dont expect price to dip below 10 bob anytime soon maybe next year...


Use the 3yr or 5yr chart. Have you noticed the double top at 11.50 - 12.00 level? You can see the double top on bamburi too where 200 - 210 has become a stiff level to break as well as EABL with 210 - 220.

From the 5yr chart there is no support for 10s only 9.50 and 9. Why I dismiss 8s zone is the price has always rallied thru it thus on the way down there will be no support unless around 8.30, which is very weak. From 7.50 - 7.90 we have better support going back to 2008 which coincidentally had the highest volume churn. Below this the next level is 6!
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