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bird_man
#21 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 3:40:53 PM
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Someone from those maize growing areas tried to explain what happens there. Let me share…. & I (he) could be wrong.

No maize (or very little) maize was sold to Sudan. The government (read “some people”) decided that the moisture level of maize you should deliver to NCPB is about 13% to avoid aflatoxin. That was a great idea only that to get it to 13% you need to dry it on a mat like the rural folk OR use a commercial drier machine. So you plant 50acres of maize and harvest time arrives. The problems start here.

NCPB cannot accept your maize till it is at 13% and yet you cannot dry all that maize on a mat. You need the commercial drier which is only owned by some few connected Wahindi in Eldoret. If you let the maize lie around in the field it will rot. So brokers (fronting politicians) offer to buy your maize at a silly price and you have to accept the offer or face total loss. The broker takes it to his Mhindi pal for drying, bypasses NCPB and takes it to a miller. The miller needs it and buys it at whatever price but loads the extra on the consumer.

The broker (politician) makes money and also asks the Gvt to import more maize since there is a shortage. One Grain Bulk Handlers stores all the maize off the port. So again….more money for brokers & politicians.

Long run effect? Fewer maize farmers are willing to grow the crop with such uncertainties. They turn to alternative activities. Also NCPB is always being bypassed thus holds no grain reserve over the years.

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GGK
#22 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 4:05:14 PM
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@bird_man; the farmers can form cooperative societies where they can co-own the drying machines and take their maize there. Coffee & tea in central province is done that way.

Why must farmers rely on GoK or wahindis, both of which will screw you dry?
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bird_man
#23 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 4:42:18 PM
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GGK.....great point.I think that is the way to go in future.Question is when.
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bwenyenye
#24 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 4:55:02 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:
Good People,

It will never make sense for the government to waste money buying dying cows. The probelm we are having in North eastern Kenya is that of trying to sustain an impractical lifestyle and culture among the Turkana et al. Their lefstyle breeds laziness and they need to change as their land reduces. Unless we change their outlook of life, we can always count on a next round of help next year. The regions problem is not lcak of food, but lack of a means to acquire it.

I can assure you that if they had the means to buy the maize,or grow it, there would be a food shortage elsewhere. Perhaps the real question is how to make the region have purchasing power. Believe you me, they have ALOT of resources there including rivers, Gums and resins. But the folk believe in the easier life of walking around with animals while the 'wazee' idle away time playing ajua... Even the young Maasai are now changing!from herding to transport, farming, kiosks etc.



Questions for you, Selah and Gordon Gekko

1. Is walking around with cattle really an easier life than say cultivating maize or even onions?

2. How many Kenyans know that resin and gum have economic value? These guys live with the trees and always harvest the gums and resins. None has, however, thought of this as a constant money maker. Only the brokers do this.

3. Where will this purchasing power come without interventions by the government to create infrastucture that supports economic activity. You can say this as many times as you wish. But it will add no value to build a road to a place that has no organised production. The road can oly bring value if it is a means to an end. A road does not Create, it enhances..

For those who argue that the government has no blame in this, flash back to the pictures of helpless in the US post Katrina and think abou how much money has had to be sunk into constructing dikes. I suppose the citizens of Katrina with their relatively higher purchasing power would have done better.

The welfare economics suggested by Adam Smith has a place in this country and its leadership. Kenya will not develop by sinking most of its resources in areas that have been economically exploited since time immemorial. Infact the marginalised areas should offer investors an higher rate of return and this can only be achieved through deliberate interventions.


My take is this. These guys have had useless leaders all the while. Surely, even with the CDF, huge budgets on water... how many boreholes could one count in the vast area? did anyone site a kichinjio? or a refrigerated van to ferry the meat to where there is a market? Someone said that a fellow lost 250 herd of cattle. Surely,what was so difficult in the areas leaders organising a market for the animals given that the animals did not die of lightning. They took time, and you could see where it was all headed. That is why I get mad when I see old men ( owners of those livestock) whiling away time playing ajua then wake up to tell the world that they have lost 250 cattle and the government has neglected us' The reason they allow this is because they 'know'that the govt. will but be coerced to buy the dying cows. If you have been to those areas, you would have witnessed that these guys sometimes get the relief food then sell to buy tobacco to smoke!! Sorry but,no thanks. I am not buying this theory of it is the government's fault. Then even I should sleep and await the government to feed me! I feel pain when MY money ( govt got no money ) is being used to play cheap politics!
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GGK
#25 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 5:17:21 PM
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bwenyenye wrote:
[quote=accelriskconsult][quote=bwenyenye]

I am not buying this theory of it is the government's fault. Then even I should sleep and await the government to feed me! I feel pain when MY money ( govt got no money ) is being used to play cheap politics!


Am with you here, GoK should have done better but it isnt entirely its fault. People should learn to take responsibility of their own destiny. I will never be convinced that someone with 300 cows is so poor as to rely on food aid. Why have them in 1st place?

You can sell them when healthy and sink a borehole
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accelriskconsult
#26 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 6:17:20 PM
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GGK wrote:
bwenyenye wrote:
[quote=accelriskconsult][quote=bwenyenye]

I am not buying this theory of it is the government's fault. Then even I should sleep and await the government to feed me! I feel pain when MY money ( govt got no money ) is being used to play cheap politics!


Am with you here, GoK should have done better but it isnt entirely its fault. People should learn to take responsibility of their own destiny. I will never be convinced that someone with 300 cows is so poor as to rely on food aid. Why have them in 1st place?

You can sell them when healthy and sink a borehole


I am not saying that the government is the only party to blame here but remember it signed up to feed and protect its citizens in exchange for such citizens agreeing to be governed.

Why do they have 300k cows and wont sell but instead watch them die? because those cows are their savings, are their bankings. Some with the benefit of education put all their money in banks and watch as inflation catches up with it.

Guys remember even the Somalis of NEP are starving. Now let me ask a seemingly stupid question. Have you seen Somalis living in slums? Is it not obvious that they are very hard working community who given a chance generally prosper? Concluding that laziness caused this famine is wrong. And the commonly held view that a few years of CDF cash could have reversed this is baseless. The basics including roads, schools, hospitals and water have to be there for CDF to make in impact. And fyi ye all Kikuyus, Luhyas, Luos, Kambas and Kalenjin who argue otherwise, any progress that you witness in your areas of origin has bery little to do with your MP. The post independence government just followed the blueprint laid out by the colonialists. And I suppose that when you say that the 'leaders' have let down their communities, you mean each president since independence. There has been no other way but through the presidency until very late in Kibaki's second term.
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