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Kenya's ultimate solution
tycho
#1 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 4:35:49 PM
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The sum of all our problems is ignorance. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge of how to use time to meet our needs, for as Marx pointed out, the economic system is the base, the rest; superstructure.

We have this problem because our principal tool of thought- the English language,is very difficult to use. We take a very long time to learn it, and even longer to use it. And even more, very few of us are able to learn it.

This leaves us heavily reliant on others for technological solutions as we struggle to learn.

Since we cannot think for the starving in Turkana at all times, we need to help them get the power to name,even as we build them infrastructure.

And we can do this quickly by supporting and using sheng as the official language of technology, and constructing a new economic system centered on cyberspace.
2012
#2 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 5:32:26 PM
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Forgive me but I totally disagree. The sum of all our problems the culture of laziness, greed and lack of vision - being comfortable with discomfort.

(c/p)
Japan has limited territory, 80%  mountainous, unsuitable for agriculture or farming, but is the second in worlds economy. The country is like an immense floating factory, importing raw material from the whole world and exporting manufactured products.

Switzerland, it does not grow cocoa but produces the best chocolates in the world. In her small territory she rears animals and cultivates the land only for four month in a year, nevertheless manufactures the best milk products. A small country which is an image of security which has made it the strongest world bank.

BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#3 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 5:57:41 PM
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@2012,

Culture is about using time to meet needs.

If one cannot see how his/her needs will be met by manipulating what he has, then he/she is likely to be inactive- hence 'laziness.'

Greed comes out of insecurity. Insecurity rises with ignorance.

Lack of vision is nothing but the failure to foresee knowledge in action.

Since you say these are make the sum of our problems, and all come out of ignorance, then you agree with me totally.
2012
#4 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 6:19:34 PM
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tycho wrote:
Since you say these are make the sum of our problems, and all come out of ignorance, then you agree with me totally.


No I still disagree. We're all born ignorant then life removes the ignorance from us by force. Why are people in Israel not dying and they live in a desert while Turkanas with the vast Lake Turkana are dying? The human race has been farming ever since existence so you can't tell me it's ignorance. And what might be your cure for ignorance if I may ask? Class rooms?

BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#5 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 6:53:47 PM
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@2012,

It is difficult to show that we are born ignorant. As long as we perceive ourselves as cybernetic then we always have some knowledge.

Ignorance comes in out of alienation. That is, like in Kenya's case, people grow into ignorance.

If individuals are conscious of their needs, and in extension, they understand other people's needs, and this consciousness is mediated via communication links, then their ignorance is eliminated.

Individuals will fulfill the above if they have a language system that is easy to learn and understand, and one that is spread widely.
2012
#6 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 7:13:46 PM
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tycho wrote:
@2012,
Ignorance comes in out of alienation.


Alienation by who? If you were in trouble would you sit and wait for someone who has no idea that you exist or who doesn't care about you to come and rescue you? I think there's a very thin line between stupidity and ignorance. How does your next door neighbour in the same social status as you and living in a mud hat manage to see his kids through college while yours become drunkard thugs? Just like the gospel of Jesus has gone around the earth so has information and choices.

BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#7 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 7:36:25 PM
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@2012,

Alienation involves invalidating ones world view mostly through coercion. For example, a body politic x establishes taxation on a people y who have a different culture/world view. The people y are then forced to enter into relationships that give people x and their world view(s) priority.

True, information is all over, but our capacities to access, internalize and use this information are severely limited.

My neighbor may send her child to college while mine turns out to be a sot, but I don't think it follows that the former is better than the latter.

For example, some of our 'worst' leaders have college education.
2012
#8 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 7:45:08 PM
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tycho wrote:
@2012,
Alienation involves invalidating ones world view mostly through coercion. For example, a body politic x establishes taxation on a people y who have a different culture/world view.


And that is how revolutions (peaceful or otherwise) are born.
A few examples include the slaves in America, Mau Mau in kenya, Ghandi in India, Mandela in SA etc. I really don't get how Turkanas can be staring at death every year and they cannpt all match to Nairobi and protest violently after all, what's the worst that could happen to them? Death?

BBI will solve it
:)
tycho
#9 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 8:37:38 PM
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@2012'

Revolutions? These are merely uprisings.

Even if one burnt himself outside the D.O's office, and roused anger violent and forceful enough to decapitate the President,one would still have to contend with the economic question, 'How will I meet my needs responsibly?

A failure to answer this question will lead to Robespierre's lament; 'We have failed to found freedom . . . '

Morozov sacrificing his father,but to what effect? Is Russia today as enviable as some would have wanted it to be?

But how can an one experience Revolution if there is no radical shift in consciousness?

The dearth of this consciousness is ignorance.
jasonhill
#10 Posted : Saturday, August 06, 2011 3:12:06 AM
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tycho wrote:
The sum of all our problems is ignorance. Ignorance is the lack of knowledge of how to use time to meet our needs, for as Marx pointed out, the economic system is the base, the rest; superstructure.

We have this problem because our principal tool of thought- the English language,is very difficult to use. We take a very long time to learn it, and even longer to use it. And even more, very few of us are able to learn it.

This leaves us heavily reliant on others for technological solutions as we struggle to learn.

Since we cannot think for the starving in Turkana at all times, we need to help them get the power to name,even as we build them infrastructure.

And we can do this quickly by supporting and using sheng as the official language of technology, and constructing a new economic system centered on cyberspace.


I completely, totally disagree with this.

English is the official language of business all over the world. And Kenyans speak English far better than much of the rest of the world, save of course for the US, UK, Australia, and Canada.

As you all know, I am very much for re-evaluating everything in our society to ensure that it is expedient as it pertains to the goal of furthering our cause and our mission, but to use sheng/slang, which even our EAC neighbors may not understand, and the rest of the global business community will certainly not understand, is beyond foolish.

If you have an issue with a subject or course that you learned since primary school, STUDY HARDER.

Our core issues are:

Confusion, Self-Doubt, and Self-Hate.

This is utter confusion. Ignore it. Just because one drops the "I" from "I am" doesn't mean that all is lost.

Best,

Hill
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