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YesuWangu
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:32:52 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Is it wrong for a pastor to own earthly possession like a 21 mirrion range lover?


Only if he uses Jesus and God to manipulate people into giving him the cash to buy the vehicle.
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KulaRaha
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:35:05 PM
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Mine has a steel factory in Athi River
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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milken
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:36:31 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Mine has a steel factory in Athi River


Wewe ni Bhai?
Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
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Wa_ithaka
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:45:58 PM
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If the Pastor is the richest or among the richest dude/woman in the church, its the 1st tell-tale that he/she is the a conman and sadaka should be cut back.
Plse read the bible and see who are its leaders before impoverishing yourself for your pastor's sake and coming here to vent.
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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KulaRaha
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:53:46 PM
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milken wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Mine has a steel factory in Athi River


Wewe ni Bhai?


You didnt read it in the papers?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Mtu Biz
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:22:27 PM
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Wendz wrote:

to compare any of the mainstream churches with these "plant a seed or no blessings" churches mushrooming in Kenya is just laughable... you clearly are not in touch with the happens on the ground... LOOOL



What is a 'mainstream church'?

People have gathered for centuries under the banner of Christianity, a precious few really are Christians.
What one group considers sound doctrine is heresy to another group.

What we then need to find is The Truth.

History records that the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch (Acts 11:26)....

Christian here is translated Christ Like Ones...

Everything about these disciples said
'Like Christ'.

In the same way in this day. It is not about which group is right and which is wrong.... it is simply this.

Do you KNOW Jesus the Christ ?

If yes then is your local fellowship of believers true to his word ?

If your answer is yes to both questions then you are ok.

If not well.... you need to find the truth and know it for yourself.





Sola Scriptura
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tuvok
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:58:18 PM
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What are the 9 marks of a healthy church?

http://www.9marks.org/what-are-the-9marks/

A review of the book:

9 Marks is organized around 9 distinguishing “marks” of a Biblical church. It’s important to note that Dever is not proposing that these are the only marks of a Biblical Church, but rather that they are 9 of the most neglected or misunderstood marks of a biblical church. These 9 Marks include:

Expositional Preaching
Biblical Theology
The Gospel
A Biblical Understanding of Conversion
A Biblical Understanding of Evangelism
A Biblical Understanding of Church Membership
Biblical Church Discipline
A Concern for Discipleship and Growth
Biblical Church Leadership

from -> http://shepherdsnotes.com/?p=1839
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tuvok
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:04:44 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Is it wrong for a pastor to own earthly possession like a 21 mirrion range lover?


I point you to 1 Tim 6 specifically:

Specifically vs 9-19
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Sigiriri
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 2:28:54 PM
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I refuse to agree with anyone who tries to justify this ammassing of wealth from sacrifices of the people. Why is it the hindu community was quick to give 300 tonnes of food when the so called christian churches only boast of 21million rangers and this - http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=14158
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VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Friday, August 05, 2011 3:04:44 PM
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Does he have a hot daughter? Oh, she doesn't even have to be hot but has to come with dowry i.e. a new Range Rover Sport so I can ride her. The car that is.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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