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Barclays Bank Kenya H1 pre-tax profit up 13pc
kenyainvestor
#21 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:29:01 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
they should shed off that elitist tag or they will just fade, the business dynamics are changing so fast with new entrepreneurs emerging and stories like how they pursued and sold matiba's assets don't help them either


With no regional subsidiaries to insulate against the tough Kenyan economic environment, 2H might be worse
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:45:48 PM
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Profit after tax slumped to Sh3.64 billion in the period under review down from Sh3.71 booked over a similar period last year. does it place the other banks at a better position in future?
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:56:36 PM
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There is no apparent strategy from BBK to turn things around from this downward spiral. And assets to be sold are becoming less and less; operating costs have been cut to the bone; customer deposits are stagnant; the potential customer base for expansion is aggrieved by past corporate behaviour, BBK is in for one hell of a downward ride. I dont see them sustaining H1 perfromance in H2. Co-op is looking like they deserve that position 3 because they have strong roadmaps for future growth.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 5:41:01 PM
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kenyainvestor wrote:
Funny how management term customer deposits as "stable" as if it is a good thing. BBK's peers are experiencing a rise in customer deposits while all they can deliver is a 1.6% decline. "Mice" should jump from this ship

For a comprehensive analysis of the results check out my blog

LINK: BARCLAYS BANK OF KENYA HALF YEAR 2011 RESULTS ANALYSIS



Nice analysis from your blog as usual especially this one With no more custodial businesses to sell, investors might be forgiven for scampering for safety.

I have noticed the dismal performance but the interim dividend increased marginally from last years 0.75 to 0.80 (4 to 1 split). This is also a paltry 6% increase in interim dividend. As you said dividend is my game, but I still keep a distant eye on growth.

I will still wait for FY to decide might be to switch fully to another finance counter with a view to selling off to take more stake in Jubilee or Stanchart. My allocation for banking stocks is strictly for banking stocks and I have had enough of KCB and Equity but there is more room for Jub or Stanchart from my finance sector allocation formula.

Btw I would like to see your analysis on NMG H1 result
if that is your usual practice without going out of your way ?

Regards
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:33:23 PM
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githundi wrote:
My advise to those have either BBK or SCBK; sell and buy stocks with more upside potential.

i totally disagree wit this view. bbk shareholders r considered as 'serious' investors. most of the shareholders who hv invested in bbk hv done so bcoz of th goodwill and perceived stability unlike other banks such as eqty. most eqty shareholders r irrational n easily influenced by herd behaviour n comprise of th 'wanjiku's.
i project the share price of bbk 2 continue being stable n th best stock 2 hold mostly in current economic times.
the deal
#26 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:57:38 PM
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I wouldnt dismiss BBK just yet...with all those cuts cost to income ratio is still 57%...so still room for more cuts..
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:41:53 PM
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I expect bbk 2 cut staff costs furthur targeting th mid n low level employees.tis wil form part of its long term strategy of bankin on its new IT system in service delivery
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:50:58 PM
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Gadaffi wrote:
I expect bbk 2 cut staff costs furthur targeting th mid n low level employees.tis wil form part of its long term strategy of bankin on its new IT system in service delivery

That's swell and how about on the business front?
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 7:53:03 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Gadaffi wrote:
I expect bbk 2 cut staff costs furthur targeting th mid n low level employees.tis wil form part of its long term strategy of bankin on its new IT system in service delivery

That's swell and how about on the business front?

Or will it be higher bank charges.
kenyainvestor
#30 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:30:23 PM
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young wrote:
kenyainvestor wrote:
Funny how management term customer deposits as "stable" as if it is a good thing. BBK's peers are experiencing a rise in customer deposits while all they can deliver is a 1.6% decline. "Mice" should jump from this ship

For a comprehensive analysis of the results check out my blog

LINK: BARCLAYS BANK OF KENYA HALF YEAR 2011 RESULTS ANALYSIS



Nice analysis from your blog as usual especially this one With no more custodial businesses to sell, investors might be forgiven for scampering for safety.

I have noticed the dismal performance but the interim dividend increased marginally from last years 0.75 to 0.80 (4 to 1 split). This is also a paltry 6% increase in interim dividend. As you said dividend is my game, but I still keep a distant eye on growth.

I will still wait for FY to decide might be to switch fully to another finance counter with a view to selling off to take more stake in Jubilee or Stanchart. My allocation for banking stocks is strictly for banking stocks and I have had enough of KCB and Equity but there is more room for Jub or Stanchart from my finance sector allocation formula.

Btw I would like to see your analysis on NMG H1 result
if that is your usual practice without going out of your way ?

Regards


@young, why wait for the year to end? Are you expecting BBK to grow faster than Equity, KCB, or Co-op?

Its like you are on the Titanic, it's going down, yet saying, let it sink a bit further so that I get out. Bolt! my Nigerian brother
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:39:19 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Gadaffi wrote:
I expect bbk 2 cut staff costs furthur targeting th mid n low level employees.tis wil form part of its long term strategy of bankin on its new IT system in service delivery

That's swell and how about on the business front?

Or will it be higher bank charges.


Maybe they'll start charging people to deposit money again.

Cutting costs isn't going to do much here. That will only be addressing the symptoms, and not the cause. Its business is not growing, which is what needs addressing.

We need to see the top-line growing. A decrease in costs needs to be accompanied by a corresponding increase in Customer Deposits and Loan Book growth
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the deal
#32 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:50:55 PM
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A terrible show from Barclay's Bank Kenya (BBK), I expect the operating environment in the 2H to be more challenging than the 1H due to high inflation and high interest rates, in fact the Shilling slipped to a fresh all time low today, CBK has no option now than to pop up that repo rate , at a forward EPS of Sh1.4, if BBK is able to maintain this performance through out the year, the bank will trade on a forward PE of 11.1 at the current price of Sh15.60, I still maintain my 1Q recommendation of REDUCE.

Read more here http://www.contrarianinv...e-deep-cut-in-costs.html
young
#33 Posted : Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:53:14 PM
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kenyainvestor wrote:


@young, why wait for the year to end? Are you expecting BBK to grow faster than Equity, KCB, or Co-op?

Its like you are on the Titanic, it's going down, yet saying, let it sink a bit further so that I get out. Bolt! my Nigerian brother



Thanks your advise is for speculators snoozing principally for capital gain not for long termers like me my brother.

I cannot jump ship because of dismal H1 result cum interim dividend slightly better than last year in the bear market.The worst thing for long termer is to be desperate and follow the crowd . I need to see more quarters and still pick up some more dividends while waiting .
I avoid selling in bearish situation,

Barclays constitute less than 5% of my holdings in BBK so I do not need to loose my head about it. I have good alternatives to switch to when the need arises.
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#34 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:14:43 AM
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Barclays constitute less than 5% of my holdings in BBK ??
Foresight..
Gadaffi
#35 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:01:09 AM
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[quote=the deal]A terrible show from Barclay's Bank Kenya (BBK), I expect the operating environment in the 2H to be more challenging than the 1H due to high inflation and high interest rates, in fact the Shilling slipped to a fresh all time low today, CBK has no option now than to pop up that repo rate , at a forward EPS of Sh1.4, if BBK is able to maintain this performance through out the year, the bank will trade on a forward PE of 11.1 at the current price of Sh15.60, I still maintain my 1Q recommendation of REDUCE.

Read more here http://www.contrarianinv...-deep-cut-in-costs.html[/quote]
as i hv said ealier bbk has its takers who happen 2 b lng term investors n wil nt jus dispose or reduce jus coz there ws a marginal drop in th bottom line
mkonomtupu
#36 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:36:59 AM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
they should shed off that elitist tag or they will just fade, the business dynamics are changing so fast with new entrepreneurs emerging and stories like how they pursued and sold matiba's assets don't help them either


okay i see from page 8 DN that BBK "appreciates the words of gratitude expressed to it by the Matiba family" Well BBK seems you do read wazua most of these things are about perception and thank you for changing the perception Applause look at how KCB treated uchumi and learn a good lesson.
young
#37 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:02:34 AM
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gatoho wrote:
Barclays constitute less than 5% of my holdings in BBK ??


CORRECTION
MY SHARES BARCLAYS CONSTITUTES LESS THAN 5% HOLDINGS IN NSE !!!
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young
#38 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:55:09 AM
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On the flip side if a blue chip with good antecedents like BBK slumps considerably and they come up better biz plans , it may become an opportunity for long termers like me to buy more. The home office in UK will not go to sleep there may be better biz ideas beyond regional expansion (like local banks) which is not their biz model.
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#39 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:16:31 PM
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Barclays will grow but not much faster than the economy. Why? Since it faces massive competition from the likes of Equity Bank...

Equity has become a serious player in the Corporate Segment as well. Look at the loans to NCC & RVR.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#40 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2011 12:50:47 PM
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Barclays Plc has enough headache at this time. BBK must be among the last things on its mind.
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