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guru267
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:30:20 AM
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This to all the CIC and panafrica fans...

http://www.jubileeholdin...12_insurance_awards.pdf

I can't now wait for the awesome H1 results..
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StatMeister
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 11:42:38 AM
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#3 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:48:54 PM
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@guru267

I didnt hear ICEA mentioned alot; and l cant open your link above. Any particular reason to be concerned about ICEA as an insured party?
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guru267
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:34:49 PM
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Barrywhite wrote:
@guru267

I didnt hear ICEA mentioned alot; and l cant open your link above. Any particular reason to be concerned about ICEA as an insured party?


There is plenty of reason for your concern.. Your insurance company does not treat you as well as jubilee can..
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young
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:48:22 PM
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So far in insurance subsector JUB stands tall above her peers panafric,CFCI,Ken-re
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
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FUNKY
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:53:20 PM
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@ young - Kenya Re is a RE-Insurer and not an insurance company so you cannot compare the both.
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guru267
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 4:56:06 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
@ young - Kenya Re is a RE-Insurer and not an insurance company so you cannot compare the both.


But you can compare the way they manage & invest the premiums they receive right??
Again in this department Jubilee wins hands down!!
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young
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:04:50 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
@ young - Kenya Re is a RE-Insurer and not an insurance company so you cannot compare the both.


Thanks guru267 for helping out , that was why I used her for JUB instead of he from the little patchy english I know.
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accelriskconsult
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:45:24 PM
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young wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
@ young - Kenya Re is a RE-Insurer and not an insurance company so you cannot compare the both.


Thanks guru267 for helping out , that was why I used her for JUB instead of he from the little patchy english I know.



Infact as a reinsurer, Kenya Re should have a much leaner structure (compared to Jubilee) and command better results qualitatively.

It would be interesting to find out how its staff numbers compare to those of Africa Re and ZEP Re.
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young
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:51:45 PM
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[quote=accelriskonsult wrote
It would be interesting to find out how its staff numbers compare to those of Africa Re and ZEP Re.[/quote]


Since Africa Re is not listed, it is not of much interest to me
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jerry
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:29:49 PM
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accelriskconsult wrote:
young wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
@ young - Kenya Re is a RE-Insurer and not an insurance company so you cannot compare the both.


Thanks guru267 for helping out , that was why I used her for JUB instead of he from the little patchy english I know.



Infact as a reinsurer, Kenya Re should have a much leaner structure (compared to Jubilee) and command better results qualitatively.

It would be interesting to find out how its staff numbers compare to those of Africa Re and ZEP Re.

@a-r-consult. KenyaRe ought to show us the benefits of the favour they've been enjoying via legislation where local companies r required to re-insure thro them.
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guru267
#12 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:43:10 AM
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http://www.jubileeholdin...her-investments/seacom/


http://www.businessdaily...4/-/f73wn0/-/index.html


Man these guys are everywhere aren't they? JUB is 33.33% deep into this seacom so I hope things get even better

What does Britank Own??
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QW25081985
#13 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:06:01 AM
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guru267 wrote:
http://www.jubileeholdings.com/jubilee-group/other-investments/seacom/


http://www.businessdaily...4/-/f73wn0/-/index.html


Man these guys are everywhere aren't they? JUB is 33.33% deep into this seacom so I hope things get even better

What does Britank Own??



i just hope you swallowed your britak bearishness and you are making money now w/ it !!!!!!! lol
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hisah
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:41:31 PM
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guru267 wrote:
http://www.jubileeholdings.com/jubilee-group/other-investments/seacom/


http://www.businessdaily...4/-/f73wn0/-/index.html


Man these guys are everywhere aren't they? JUB is 33.33% deep into this seacom so I hope things get even better

What does Britank Own??


Whoa! I didn't know this about JHL... This thing has defied my tanking expectations, I need it cheaper smile
@guru - since you are a fan of JHL can you tell them that their site is misbehaving with a lot of access errors. Their website admin needs to check on the numerous access errors and why TYPO3 is misbehaving... http://typo3.com/

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Gordon Gekko
#15 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:45:32 PM
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This is a serious investment vehicle masquerading as an insurer. I have placed an audacious bid at ksh 150/-.
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guru267
#16 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:56:14 PM
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hisah wrote:

Whoa! I didn't know this about JHL... This thing has defied my tanking expectations, I need it cheaper smile



@hisah If we look at this years performance for Jub you will be astounded...

It closed the year 2010 at 180bob so if one had bought 1,000 shares on 31dec 2010 they would have been worth 180,000kshs at the close of 2010

During 2011 in May they issued a 1:10 bonus which means the shareholder with 1,000 shares now has 1,100 shares.

This means At todays price of 162bob this shareholder is worth 178,200kshs which is merely a 1% loss on his investment for 9months of 2011..

My point is that if it has gone the whole of 2011 without falling I dont see what will make it start today..
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hisah
#17 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:32:39 PM
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@guru - interesting. This defiance is similar to Total back in 2008-2009 panic central... I want to see between JHL and KK who will hold the title...
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msimon
#18 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:49:35 PM
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guru267 wrote:
hisah wrote:

Whoa! I didn't know this about JHL... This thing has defied my tanking expectations, I need it cheaper smile



@hisah If we look at this years performance for Jub you will be astounded...

It closed the year 2010 at 180bob so if one had bought 1,000 shares on 31dec 2010 they would have been worth 180,000kshs at the close of 2010

During 2011 in May they issued a 1:10 bonus which means the shareholder with 1,000 shares now has 1,100 shares.

This means At todays price of 162bob this shareholder is worth 178,200kshs which is merely a 1% loss on his investment for 9months of 2011..


My point is that if it has gone the whole of 2011 without falling I dont see what will make it start today..


What are the odds that Jubilee will become like other fund managers who are reclassifying their bond portfolios from held for trading & available for sale to held to maturity so as to avoid write downs from the bonds to catalyse the write-downs on stocks...Guru over to you!
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#19 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:09:03 PM
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hisah wrote:
@guru - interesting. This defiance is similar to Total back in 2008-2009 panic central... I want to see between JHL and KK who will hold the title...

Speaking of Total, it's at 19 these days.
The beef I have with Jub is its illiquidity.
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hisah
#20 Posted : Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:00:30 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
hisah wrote:
@guru - interesting. This defiance is similar to Total back in 2008-2009 panic central... I want to see between JHL and KK who will hold the title...

Speaking of Total, it's at 19 these days.
The beef I have with Jub is its illiquidity.


And how liquid is total?
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