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AIRTEL- Safaricom in danger
kanda
#31 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:59:57 PM
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kivairu, if it was not for airtel we would still be paying 8bob per min and 5bob per mb. but we are paying 1-2 bob and 0.5-1 bob respectively: ~80% reduction in both cases!! now what part of that dont you know???? and yet the telco in kenya is alive and well.

on what basis do you assert that airtel was intent on killing telco? open your eyes and break out of the siege mentality propagated by safcon. show some gratitude to airtel.

it always baffles me when ppl argue about this issue. seems majority of kenyans are challenged in independent thot even with regard to the most basic concepts and even where there is glaring evidence. oh no, we must listen to joe to tell us what's good for the telco in kenya. . what do you expect him to say? the situation is laughable, sad, disheartening!
mchuuzi
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:01:12 PM
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kanda wrote:
kivairu, if it was not for airtel we would still be paying 8bob per min and 5bob per mb. but we are paying 1-2 bob and 0.5-1 bob respectively: ~80% reduction in both cases!! now what part of that dont you know???? and yet the telco in kenya is alive and well.

on what basis do you assert that airtel was intent on killing telco? open your eyes and break out of the siege mentality propagated by safcon. show some gratitude to airtel.

it always baffles me when ppl argue about this issue. seems majority of kenyans are challenged in independent thot even with regard to the most basic concepts and even where there is glaring evidence. oh no, we must listen to joe to tell us what's good for the telco in kenya. . what do you expect him to say? the situation is laughable, sad, disheartening!

@Kanda If you call at 1 bob across networks as a company you have overheads and this overheads have to be met.I agree it was a good thing to bring the prices down but bring them down to a level which makes buisness sense.Of what use is a cheap calling rate where your service is so poor because you do not have the money to maintain it.Kenyans have lost jobs with the Airtel madness and they will continue losing jobs so why continue fighting unreasonable price wars.
mozenrat
#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:01:40 PM
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@Kanda.. The thing about Airtel is that their shenanigans are visible in other markets. I agree with you that they helped slash prices. but they did the same in India and 3 years down the line (after bruising the other Telcos badly) have now raised their call rates 20% with further hikes expected.
http://blog.chhahat.com/...-for-user-or-not-?.html
Silk
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:25:01 PM
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How fast we forget Airtel/Kencell started it all!!! We were all in Kencell suffering in the burden of per minute billing until Safaricom came with per sec billing.
Njunge
#35 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 3:01:50 PM
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Bob Collymore's arrogance:

“We are not going to move our prices. If we lose market share as a result of that then that is fine"

So he should stop sending Safcom line users that offer of sijui 25% blah blah. He should also stop calling me Dear. I am Guka.......but heck, since the beginning of the year, i am permanently on Airtel for voice and data while my Safcom line is strictly for Mpesa. Quite pocket friendly unlike his mathogothanio and i am good with that.

Kenyan Oracle
#36 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 3:24:25 PM
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Njunge wrote:
Bob Collymore's arrogance:

“We are not going to move our prices. If we lose market share as a result of that then that is fine"

So he should stop sending Safcom line users that offer of sijui 25% blah blah. He should also stop calling me Dear. I am Guka.......but heck, since the beginning of the year, i am permanently on Airtel for voice and data while my Safcom line is strictly for Mpesa. Quite pocket friendly unlike his mathogothanio and i am good with that.




I agree with you Guka, the only thing tying me to Safcon is the Mpesa thingy. Strickly that.
You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money - NAS
murchr
#37 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 3:42:41 PM
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Njunge wrote:
Bob Collymore's arrogance:

“We are not going to move our prices. If we lose market share as a result of that then that is fine"

So he should stop sending Safcom line users that offer of sijui 25% blah blah. He should also stop calling me Dear. I am Guka.......but heck, since the beginning of the year, i am permanently on Airtel for voice and data while my Safcom line is strictly for Mpesa. Quite pocket friendly unlike his mathogothanio and i am good with that.



Kwani this is the first time? This has been Airtels strategy since they bought zain and Safcom responce has been the same
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Njunge
#38 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 4:00:34 PM
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murchr wrote:
Njunge wrote:
Bob Collymore's arrogance:

“We are not going to move our prices. If we lose market share as a result of that then that is fine"

So he should stop sending Safcom line users that offer of sijui 25% blah blah. He should also stop calling me Dear. I am Guka.......but heck, since the beginning of the year, i am permanently on Airtel for voice and data while my Safcom line is strictly for Mpesa. Quite pocket friendly unlike his mathogothanio and i am good with that.



Kwani this is the first time? This has been Airtels strategy since they bought zain and Safcom responce has been the same



All i can remember is Airtel coming up with a 2 bob tariff across network a few days ago. Bob responds by the statement above. Airtel did not ask him for a price fight and i doubt anybody did.Sasa anatuletea kiherere ya nini?Sad
murchr
#39 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2018 4:16:31 PM
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Njunge wrote:
murchr wrote:
Njunge wrote:
Bob Collymore's arrogance:

“We are not going to move our prices. If we lose market share as a result of that then that is fine"

So he should stop sending Safcom line users that offer of sijui 25% blah blah. He should also stop calling me Dear. I am Guka.......but heck, since the beginning of the year, i am permanently on Airtel for voice and data while my Safcom line is strictly for Mpesa. Quite pocket friendly unlike his mathogothanio and i am good with that.



Kwani this is the first time? This has been Airtels strategy since they bought zain and Safcom responce has been the same



All i can remember is Airtel coming up with a 2 bob tariff across network a few days ago. Bob responds by the statement above. Airtel did not ask him for a price fight and i doubt anybody did.Sasa anatuletea kiherere ya nini?Sad


Go a few posts up. Safaricom has a KYC - know your customers strategy that they employ to make decisions. They know most people may not use 2/- in a call. By the way Airtel is per minute billing so even if you talk in less than a minute 2/- is gone
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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