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Iborian
#41 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:52:44 PM
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Sawas@GG, I even thought you would say 15 not 12.50, which is but a modest increase.

But I am in no doubt you do NOT want to be the guy buying at the higher end of the range, post results. Knowing you, I am sure you will be biding your time - to sell to the guy who will bid up to 12.50 (15?), having already bought your fill earlier.

But since most guys have wised up that we are in a bear market, they will not be too happy to push the price up, atakama wanajua KK ndiyo kiboko yao!
Magnetic Touch
#42 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:57:40 PM
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No two ways about this. KK is a steal.
cnn
#43 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:16:56 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@cde - Humbly. Asante.

[BTW, KK says 2H 2011 will be better than 2H 2010 so 2/- EPS is possible!]

PAT at half year is 2.157 billion,EPS at half year of 1.32,factoring in a 10% ESOP dilution!.And .57cents dividend to be paid on 2nd September.Not so bad.
Gordon Gekko
#44 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:22:03 PM
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Iborian wrote:
Sawas@GG, I even thought you would say 15 not 12.50, which is but a modest increase.

But I am in no doubt you do NOT want to be the guy buying at the higher end of the range, post results. Knowing you, I am sure you will be biding your time - to sell to the guy who will bid up to 12.50 (15?), having already bought your fill earlier.

But since most guys have wised up that we are in a bear market, they will not be too happy to push the price up, atakama wanajua KK ndiyo kiboko yao!


I'll be honest, I can't contain my h**d-on. My ROI at the current price (sh11) is close to 13.59% and my dividend/today's price is 9.91%. Both statistics beat all my holdings by a mile.

The smart thing to do now is to sell cum and avoid the 5% with holding tax if you take the dividends. Then buy again ex div.
Aguytrying
#45 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:31:57 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
[quote=Aguytrying]Oh my God. They did it, they did it. The interim dividend is more than previous financial years' dividend. I think what segman and co. Are telling the market, is that this share is actually worth double. This is a serious question to mr market. And as some have said, if there is supply, we will be buying if only for the dividend. Thats a 5.2 percent dividend yield on the interim, at 11 bob. thankyou very much. 13.00 here we come.


my friend you buy and hold. Are you seeing any capital gains anywhere of late? This is an assured earning, with the possibility of capital retention or appreciation.
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Aguytrying
#46 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:36:06 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@cde - Humbly. Asante.

[BTW, KK says 2H 2011 will be better than 2H 2010 so 2/- EPS is possible!]

you sure know how to call them. Ok. 2 bob eps, this is becoming too much to process, mind blowing.
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Aguytrying
#47 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:47:19 PM
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@Qw. You may be right to laugh at those buying now, though they'll make some cash. The ones who'll make a kill are us who bought sub-ten bob.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Cde Monomotapa
#48 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:49:17 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@cde - Humbly. Asante.

[BTW, KK says 2H 2011 will be better than 2H 2010 so 2/- EPS is possible!]

Most welcome boss. Mmm..that's a firm outlook and I see it supported by the August oil load, the Kipevu & Rabai diesel supply contracts and a.o.b. smile
Iborian
#49 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:51:22 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
I'll be honest, I can't contain my h**d-on. My ROI at the current price (sh11) is close to 13.59% and my dividend/today's price is 9.91%. Both statistics beat all my holdings by a mile.

The smart thing to do now is to sell cum and avoid the 5% with holding tax if you take the dividends. Then buy again ex div.


GG, Precisly what I thought not about the h**d-on, but on what action you will be taking from tomorrow onwards. You will be a seller if the opportunity presents itself.
Iborian
#50 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:56:23 PM
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Another interesting thing to think about. KK made a lot of money from the arbitrage opportunities arising from increasing product prices on the local market.

Being the smart guys they are, walikikisha, they had sufficient inventory ahead of the controlled price increases.

Kwenda mbele, can this continue at the same rate? Serikali will be on them, au siyo?
Renegade
#51 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:05:44 PM
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@Iborian. Worse still would be for International oil prices to tumble at a time like this with 20 billion in stocks. It happened to them before and they made quite a loss. Hope they learnt a good lesson.
cnn
#52 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:23:05 PM
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The one and only J.Segman live on CNBC tomorrow at 1.40pm,make a date.
the deal
#53 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:27:51 PM
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WooW i'm blown away...i cried for an interim dividend KK...JIS gave me Sh0.57....amazing...i have been in the dark the whoke day cos of this damn cold...congrats to JIS...he is a true Cpt of the industry.
Sober
#54 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:28:35 PM
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Interim dividends of 57 cents is not bad considering the share price. This is a counter to watch.
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Cde Monomotapa
#55 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:39:58 PM
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cnn wrote:
The one and only J.Segman live on CNBC tomorrow at 1.40pm,make a date.

Super!! (not the fuel @mwanahisa et.all. Been mis-quoted & harassed too often, Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly)
kenyainvestor
#56 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:58:04 PM
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KenolKobil is making too much money. Where are THE THREE STOOGES? Anxious
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#57 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:59:46 PM
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cnn wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
@cde - Humbly. Asante.

[BTW, KK says 2H 2011 will be better than 2H 2010 so 2/- EPS is possible!]

PAT at half year is 2.157 billion,EPS at half year of 1.32,factoring in a 10% ESOP dilution!.And .57cents dividend to be paid on 2nd September.Not so bad.


cnn, I remember you saying you wish you had more cash you would buy up to 13. Talk about being proven rightApplause Applause Applause
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the deal
#58 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:01:48 PM
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Too think some people sold @ 12 bob...cracks me up
stocksmaster
#59 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:36:59 PM
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I must say that the half year results are beyond my wildest expectations.

A net profit of Ksh 2.157B means a half year EPS of Ksh 1.34 after the 140M shares ESOP (hope Wazuans can now appreciate the power of employee motivation and impact of making employees stakeholders in a business).

Management has indicated that projected 2nd half 2011 will be stronger than 2nd half 2010. This means an EPS of > Ksh 0.41 for second half; and hence an EPS of > Ksh 1.75 for 2011.

Even if the market continues valuing the share at a P/E of 9, this points to a target price of (Ksh 1.75 x 9)= Ksh 15.75 for March 2012.

By paying an interim dividend of Ksh 0.57 (for 6 months trading)which is almost 10% higher than the 12 months trading dividend (Ksh 0.52) for last year; the company is demonstrating that it has confidence of a very good 2nd half 2011.

I forsee a bonus issue of 1:5 with final year results and a final dividend of Ksh 0.43 to bring the 2011 dividend payment to Ksh 1.00. Remember the reason for increasing the number of shares was given as both for the ESOP and to increase the trading of KK shares(Increase market Liquidity). After the ESOP allocation of 140M, the total issued shares becomes abt 1.612B,thus 388M shares are left. This makes a 1:5 bonus feasible.

Having bought a huge holding (in the hundreds of thousands)of KK for my long term portfolio in early this year at average of about Ksh 10, i am impressed by the return on investment. In less than six months of holding, the share is returning a dividend of Ksh 0.52 + Ksh 0.57 = Ksh 1.09 and a further capital gain of at least Ksh 1.00.

It therefore begs the question 'What do those people shooting KK down have in their portfolio?'

It will be interesting to see what this share will be trading at Early 2013 after the elections are done and dusted and if this growth momentum is maintained, I wouldn't be surprised if it will be in the Ksh 20s.

I rarely give a Strong Buy recommendation to a share, but thats exactly how i rate KK at a price below Ksh 12.50.

Happy hunting.
Cde Monomotapa
#60 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:44:00 PM
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This will be the fastest dividend i have ever collected. XD August and by September i'm paid in full!!
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