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Power Rationing is back!!! ... is this really the way to vision 2030
Bettertry
#21 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 12:32:28 PM
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Seems like all these media campaigns they've been running was to soften us up "kutupaka mafuta", in order to hit us with this saddening news!!! NKT.
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Chanaleze
#22 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 12:49:21 PM
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it's so sad tht we've a new power company with disappointing n irritating beginning!!
Mpenzi
#23 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 12:57:46 PM
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Chanaleze wrote:
it's so sad tht we've a new power company with disappointing n irritating beginning!!


Pray, which is this new power company that I have not heard of?
RedStar
#24 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 2:33:24 PM
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Wajir went off power as soon they changed name. For us its Ethiopian, folks...too mush for use na hakuna watu wa kutumia hata kidogo..KP swish 'em off!!!!!!!
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youcan'tstopusnow
#25 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 3:12:28 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
@Cde, in the short term, in my views this is negative for KGN. It means their supply pipeline is not keeping up with the (suppressed) demand.


mwanahisa, Kengen can only supply as much to the national grid. It has many projects in the pipeline as has been detailed before in Wazua.
As you say, it is no longer a monopoly and there are many suppliers ready to fill the gap, if any.
But with Kenya economy still growing, as Cde Monomotapa says, it will currently sell everything that it produces. How is that negative?

Cde, have I "got it?"smile
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Njung'e
#26 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 3:59:21 PM
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Chanaleze wrote:
it's so sad tht we've a new power company with disappointing n irritating beginning!!



If you spray paint an ass with white and black strips you don't get a zebra,no?
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2012
#27 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 4:31:27 PM
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The saddest thing is that the first target of rationing will be our Industrial Area, one of the few if not the only place where we have value addition to raw material and Vision 2030 is here telling us how we should stop exporting raw harvest/material. Very sad.

BBI will solve it
:)
GGK
#28 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 5:20:00 PM
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Probably the worst news since the midnight swearing ceremony. It shows how myopic our planning is. KPLC has a target of connecting 100k new customers annually through rural electrification program etc.

Where did they think the new loads added to the grid will draw power form? Does it make sense to connect some peasants in Ndunduri when we disconnect Bamburi who are producing cement for export?

Vision 2030 is just wishful thinking like "tap-water-for-all-by-the-year-2000"
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Cde Monomotapa
#29 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:14:09 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
@Cde, in the short term, in my views this is negative for KGN. It means their supply pipeline is not keeping up with the (suppressed) demand.


mwanahisa, Kengen can only supply as much to the national grid. It has many projects in the pipeline as has been detailed before in Wazua.
As you say, it is no longer a monopoly and there are many suppliers ready to fill the gap, if any.
But with Kenya economy still growing, as Cde Monomotapa says, it will currently sell everything that it produces. How is that negative?

Cde, have I "got it?"smile

@ycsun..yes you have.
Cde Monomotapa
#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:22:54 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Basically, the economy is in high gear. That should make you happy smile

Cde Monomotapa
#31 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:25:58 AM
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2012 wrote:
The saddest thing is that the first target of rationing will be our Industrial Area, one of the few if not the only place where we have value addition to raw material and Vision 2030 is here telling us how we should stop exporting raw harvest/material. Very sad.

C'mon man. These plants run overnight. The rationing is only 3hrs. Just reorganize the shifts or get a generator.
Cde Monomotapa
#32 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:56:10 AM
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Hey pple. The following is a quotation from BD on article about MSC. "In the FY ended June, Dr Kidero said, the sugar mill had earned an excess of 1B, contributed EQUALLY from the sale of ELECTRICITY & CARBON CREDITS. Even though the financial results are yet to be published, the anticipated revenue could be significantly lifted by the earnings FROM THE TWO STREAMS above the 359M earned from Kenya Power last year" Tafakari (KGN)
Aguytrying
#33 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:27:37 AM
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@cde. It might not hurt kengen's earnings, or even kenya power. Thats true. But it sucks!! No one would rather live in darkness.
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Cde Monomotapa
#34 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 7:35:51 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@cde. It might not hurt kengen's earnings, or even kenya power. Thats true. But it sucks!! No one would rather live in darkness.

As a consumer I yield to the power and relevance of them too Sad
mwekez@ji
#35 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:14:28 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
2012 wrote:
The saddest thing is that the first target of rationing will be our Industrial Area, one of the few if not the only place where we have value addition to raw material and Vision 2030 is here telling us how we should stop exporting raw harvest/material. Very sad.

C'mon man. These plants run overnight. The rationing is only 3hrs. Just reorganize the shifts or get a generator.


IMHO, denying electricity for 3 hours to a 24 hr running industrial plant is something. The KAM members were out yesterday and they clearly indicated it will affect their productivity. They may even be forced to cut on employment levels
Iborian
#36 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:45:50 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@cde. It might not hurt kengen's earnings, or even kenya power. Thats true. But it sucks!! No one would rather live in darkness.

@Aguy, you are joking aren't you? If you reduce your sales, what do you expect? The question should be by what magnitude will earnings be hurt?
Cde Monomotapa
#37 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:14:36 AM
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Iborian wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
@cde. It might not hurt kengen's earnings, or even kenya power. Thats true. But it sucks!! No one would rather live in darkness.

@Aguy, you are joking aren't you? If you reduce your sales, what do you expect? The question should be by what magnitude will earnings be hurt?

I think this time tis more of a demand issue than a supply one. My 2cts.
Bettertry
#38 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:17:39 PM
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So the last time we experienced power rationing was back in 2000... that means 10yrs + down the line we learnt little or nothing & therefore we're doing it all over again!!! Karibu Kenya hakuna matata...
We Will Either Find a Way or Create One - HANNIBAL
2012
#39 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:06:44 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
2012 wrote:
The saddest thing is that the first target of rationing will be our Industrial Area, one of the few if not the only place where we have value addition to raw material and Vision 2030 is here telling us how we should stop exporting raw harvest/material. Very sad.

C'mon man. These plants run overnight. The rationing is only 3hrs. Just reorganize the shifts or get a generator.


Are you serious???
These plants run overnight because there's demand for what they're producing and I'm sure they all have generators.
I think it's a shame that in this day and age and advancement in technology you cannot rely on KPLC to a point where if you are doing a wedding or an event a back-up generator must be provided for in the budget.
But this guys have guts! How do you put an ad in the papers today knowing what the headline would be saying "Tunawahudumia"???

BBI will solve it
:)
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