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Ceinz
#1041 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 8:51:59 AM
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(RTTNews) - Moody's Investors Service on Monday lowered Greece's local and foreign-currency bond ratings to 'Ca' from 'Caa1', citing likelihood of substantial losses to private creditors on their government debt holdings.

It has assigned a developing outlook to the ratings. The rating's developing outlook reflects the current uncertainty about the exact market value of the securities creditors will receive in the exchange.

The support programme taken by EU as well as debt exchange proposals by major financial institutions implies that private creditors will incur economic losses on their holdings of government debt, Moody's said.

The agency will re-assess the credit risk profile of any outstanding or new securities issued by the Greek government after the debt exchanges have been completed.
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Ceinz
#1042 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 10:39:41 AM
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Obama cancels events amid debt talks: President Barack Obama has canceled two fundraising appearances Monday, a ...
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hisah
#1043 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 11:01:21 AM
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Ceinz wrote:
(RTTNews) - Moody's Investors Service on Monday lowered Greece's local and foreign-currency bond ratings to 'Ca' from 'Caa1', citing likelihood of substantial losses to private creditors on their government debt holdings.

It has assigned a developing outlook to the ratings. The rating's developing outlook reflects the current uncertainty about the exact market value of the securities creditors will receive in the exchange.

The support programme taken by EU as well as debt exchange proposals by major financial institutions implies that private creditors will incur economic losses on their holdings of government debt, Moody's said.

The agency will re-assess the credit risk profile of any outstanding or new securities issued by the Greek government after the debt exchanges have been completed.

These rating agencies are just a joke... Bure kabisa... Old news this...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ceinz
#1044 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 11:40:36 AM
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hisah wrote:

These rating agencies are just a joke... Bure kabisa... Old news this...

Drool
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Ceinz
#1045 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 11:42:16 AM
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Italian Banks Getting Dumped For The Second Straight Day Since Europe Was "Saved": Italian banks are a pretty g... http://bit.ly/rqlsAV
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#1046 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 2:00:28 PM
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Wallstreet faces 'No Deal Trauma'
(RTTNews) - U.S. stocks may wilt under debt pressure on Monday, as lawmakers show a lack of resolve to clinch a deal to raise the U.S. debt ceiling. In the absence of any major economic news and market moving earnings reports, the debt issue is likely to simmer on. That said, any move signaling that a deal is near could remove the overhang and generate some buying interest.
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#1047 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 2:09:03 PM
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South #Sudan began circulating its new pound on Monday, pegging it one-to-one with Sudan's existing pound #Africa http://j.mp/9tXPDr
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#1048 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 2:28:52 PM
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Toyota output and sales dip in first half of the year http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14271495

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#1049 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 3:11:47 PM
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Tic toc on the U.S. debt limit provides worthy cause to look back to 1931, to the travails of then superpower Britain. Bear in mind that the peak of the British Empire had been 1914, thus the following events took place 17 years after the peak.

The U.S. saw its peak in 1999.

“On August 1, 1931, the Bank of England inquired of the U.S. government whether it would be permissible to borrow $250 million from private U.S. banks. Hoover encouraged this act ion to be taken immediately. But the selling pressure against the pound by private investors forced the Bank of England to request a $400 million loan on the 26th of August. Both loans were made giving Britain a $650 million loan, but even this proved to be far from enough to stem the tide.

Within Britain, turmoil had besieged the government. Montagu Norman still reigned as a dominant force within economic policies. Norman turned to his handy textbook and relied upon what under normal conditions would dictate the solution to the problems at hand. In addition to raising the interest rates, which failed to prevent the panic withdrawals, he then surmised that confidence could only be restored by cutting government expenditures, thereby forcing on its own people a greater level of deflation. The Brits also organized what was dubbed the "May Committee" which reviewed public expenditure. This committee recommended drastic cuts in government expenditures, including a 20% cut for government employees and unemployment benefits for its people. Only two out of the seven members of this committee dissented on this opinion.

Norman obviously relied upon the report of the May Committee in his suggestions which he delivered to the government. During August this led to the resignation of most of the Labour cabinet, which simply disagreed that the salaries of government workers and unemployment benefits should be cut drastically. In the aftermath, the formation of Macdonald’s National Government resulted.

Norman demanded that these drastic cuts must be made immediately and he made them a prerequisite for obtaining the loans from the United States. These were the only steps that could save the pound, Norman asserted. From Invergordon, news spread around the world that the British Navy was in "mutiny" as a result of the drastic cut in pay. This news of mutiny did not help restore confidence whatsoever and the pay cuts had been hastily pushed through upon Norman’s direction.

Another committee, which history has referred to as the "Macmillan Committee," presided over finance and industry matters within the British government. Two prominent men sat on this committee; they were John Maynard Keynes and Ernest Bevin. The Macmillan Committee had recommended that the pound should be devalued. Of course, Norman had disagreed with this wholeheartedly. Keynes was also opposed to devaluation, but it is said that on August 5, Keynes wrote a letter to the Prime Minister in which he reversed his opinion and advocated a devaluation of the pound using the words: "The game is up."

Finally, on September 21, 1931, the Bank of England abandoned the gold standard and effectively defaulted on its foreign obligations. This, added to revolutions in South America, defaults by Germany, Austria and most of Eastern Europe, left the United States as one of the few nations which still clung to the gold standard.” The Greatest Bull Market in History, Martin Armstrong

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#1050 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:07:06 PM
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Soros to return outsiders' hedge fund money.

BOSTON (Reuters) - Billionaire investor George Soros, whose stock-picking career has spanned nearly four decades, said he will manage money only for himself and his family as new regulations threaten to crimp the hedge fund industry he made famous.

The octogenarian fund manager, known as much for earning $1 billion on a nervy currency bet as for giving away millions to support liberal causes, will return roughly $1 billion to outside investors most likely by the end of the year and turn Soros Fund Management into a family office. The sum represents only a small portion of the $25 billion he oversees.

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#1051 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:22:57 PM
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Why isn’t Wall Street panicking about the default crisis yet?
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#1052 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:24:01 PM
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Ceinz wrote:
Soros to return outsiders' hedge fund money.

BOSTON (Reuters) - Billionaire investor George Soros, whose stock-picking career has spanned nearly four decades, said he will manage money only for himself and his family as new regulations threaten to crimp the hedge fund industry he made famous.

The octogenarian fund manager, known as much for earning $1 billion on a nervy currency bet as for giving away millions to support liberal causes, will return roughly $1 billion to outside investors most likely by the end of the year and turn Soros Fund Management into a family office. The sum represents only a small portion of the $25 billion he oversees.


Fishy timing...?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#1053 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:40:15 PM
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hisah wrote:
Ceinz wrote:
Soros to return outsiders' hedge fund money.

BOSTON (Reuters) - Billionaire investor George Soros, whose stock-picking career has spanned nearly four decades, said he will manage money only for himself and his family as new regulations threaten to crimp the hedge fund industry he made famous.

The octogenarian fund manager, known as much for earning $1 billion on a nervy currency bet as for giving away millions to support liberal causes, will return roughly $1 billion to outside investors most likely by the end of the year and turn Soros Fund Management into a family office. The sum represents only a small portion of the $25 billion he oversees.


Fishy timing...?

Impending danger?
Ceinz
#1054 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:46:28 PM
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hisah wrote:
Ceinz wrote:
Soros to return outsiders' hedge fund money.

BOSTON (Reuters) - Billionaire investor George Soros, whose stock-picking career has spanned nearly four decades, said he will manage money only for himself and his family as new regulations threaten to crimp the hedge fund industry he made famous.

The octogenarian fund manager, known as much for earning $1 billion on a nervy currency bet as for giving away millions to support liberal causes, will return roughly $1 billion to outside investors most likely by the end of the year and turn Soros Fund Management into a family office. The sum represents only a small portion of the $25 billion he oversees.


Fishy timing...?


Apparenly he is not alone, other hedgefund managers have done the same. They are attributing this to sringent regulations. Read ful aticle. http:....html
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Cde Monomotapa
#1055 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:51:36 PM
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I think this marks the beginning of the end of hot money in & out of commodities. Great news for main-street.
Cde Monomotapa
#1056 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:27:56 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
I think this marks the beginning of the end of hot money in & out of commodities. Great news for main-street.

and fx markets too smile (ouch!)
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#1057 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:35:49 PM
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Ford shares up despite second quarter profits declining
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14293397

LVMH profits from luxury goods demand
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Ceinz
#1058 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:19:55 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
I think this marks the beginning of the end of hot money in & out of commodities. Great news for main-street.

and fx markets too smile (ouch!)


Im scared, how do you forestall prospects of my source income prospects vanishing into thin air.Sad Anyway if this were to happen(unlikely), fx guys are not the despondent type n r quite versatile. Equipped with our technical analist skills, we can quickly adopt to international stocks and commodities.
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Ceinz
#1059 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:22:10 AM
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USD Suffers as Politicians Fight.

Either way, the US political wrangling and heavy-handed rhetoric is spilling out, generating a high level of uncertainty across markets and eroding the USD’s position.

President Obama stated that a “default would risk causing a deep economic crisis.”

In Australia, the RBA Stevens’ speech was relatively optimistic on the economy which supported the AUDUSD’s rally.

EM Asian currencies continue to show themselves as relatively resilient to events in the western world and we expect this decoupling to continue.
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Cde Monomotapa
#1060 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:42:01 PM
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@ceinz smile just be cautios. that hedge fund liquidity is heavy and its reduced presence will surely have a visible impact on pricing. A lot of the investors who'll get their money back have no clue of how to work the mkts without the likes of Soros et.all managing their funds..see what I mean? Long plays on ccys will still prevail..can't really rely on the banksters abroad as they are also up for more regulations confining them to core biz n less from the trading desks. My 2cts. In all things it is a choice as to whether to be a victim or a victor of events. smile if I were in ur position i'd be timing to go short on all manner of commodities as statistics from abroad clearly show that main street is in the tank YET commodities are at all time highs!! I think that disconnect will be addressed soon. smile kazi kwako.
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