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OLYMPIA CAPITAL MATERIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
accelriskconsult
#41 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 2:57:32 PM
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Iborian wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
For now I am stuck with the pieces of shit & until B.U.R.E.K.A.B.I.S.A is fired I will not encourage anyone to buy into it!

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly d'oh! d'oh! Shame on you Shame on you Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


We Kachwanya usichekelee VVV. I bought 10,000 @12, saw the damn thing rise to 17 then fall back to 10 bob. I had no option but to take a hit of 20k.
Renegade
#42 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:00:01 PM
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If VVS can be suckered by these Matu "m"boys, who is safe?
Cde Monomotapa
#43 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:08:17 PM
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Renegade wrote:
If VVS can be suckered by these Matu "m"boys, who is safe?

FUNKY
#44 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:11:18 PM
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Today on richlive i can see demand of 7,400 shares for Kenya Orchards ltd...i had a good laugh. Better to invest in Olympia and move out as soon as the price rises to 5/- and be happy with your little profit you made.
the deal
#45 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:19:25 PM
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The OCH turnaround continues but this year’s number were mainly due to their cost cutting efforts not because of improving business fundamentals, note that their revenues only expanded by 8%, I need to see 2-3 sets of positive results to be convinced of any OCH turnaround, at a trailing PE of 6.25, my recommendation is reduce your exposure to the company if the share rise

Read more here http://www.contrarianinv...1-earnings-analysis.html
slykat
#46 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:28:25 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@accelriskconsult - The Botswana subsidiary is also listed so audited locally. I doubt the Kenyan auditors go to Botswana if there is a local firm that audits the subsidiary. I think the same DCDM does the Botswana audits.

I have no issues with the auditor. In a past AGM, the auditor (to the discomfort of B.U.R.E.K.A.B.I.S.A) read a speech that criticized the Corporate Governance of Olympia! You should have seen the faces of the Directors. I thought they were going to fire DCDM on the spot!


What if the investors/Auditors/regulators in Botswana are also told of "lucrative" deals sealed with their money in Kenya, Korea and elsewhere. Some kinda intl financial musical chairs.

I am persuaded by accelriskconsult... his handle and line of thinking is onto something.
Iborian
#47 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:41:41 PM
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You are all misreading the report. OCH never said they were in Korea.
FUNKY
#48 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:43:29 PM
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They have stated that they have imported a TILE MANUFACTURING PLANT FROM SOUTH KOREA,it no where reads that they are in KOREA.
accelriskconsult
#49 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 3:59:20 PM
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Iborian wrote:
You are all misreading the report. OCH never said they were in Korea.



My apologies for not cross checking this. But my argument stands. An Indian parent acquired a local subsidiary of a Singapore company in the 80's. The subsidiary was owned 30% by the GOK who also guaranteed lending by the IFC and a consortium of local banks. Within 3 years of acquisition the company degenerated into a loss making entity. The scam was run in the following manner;
(a) The subsidiary paid inflated management fees to its Indian parent while paying peanuts in royalties to the Kenyan govt (for exploiting a natural resource).
(b) The subsidiary bought obsolete second hand machinery from the parent at the price of new technology machines. Servicing of these machines was especially costly and necessitated bringing on board expats from India, again at inflated costs.
(c)The expats had formed 4 companies that posed as customers and took up a lot of stock towards cut off - to meet targets set by the IFC and other lenders. These 'sales" would be returned after audit or credit notes would be issued to the supposed customers.

Let us just say that the subsidiary closed down and left many people suffering, the government embarrased and the lenders bloodied - with no assets worth selling.



FUNKY
#50 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 4:02:50 PM
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@ accelriskconsult - Are you trying to say that they have not purchased a brand new plant from South Korea and its a used one or rather not purchased any at all and just fooling the shareholders?..
slykat
#51 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 4:22:41 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
@ accelriskconsult - Are you trying to say that they have not purchased a brand new plant from South Korea and its a used one or rather not purchased any at all and just fooling the shareholders?..


If my memory serves me right, they said the same thing about that plant when reporting last f year. Maybe it has been in the high seas for over a year because i never read of it having been grabbed by pirates.
mwanahisa
#52 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 4:27:18 PM
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@ACR, very interesting. Now that you have really whetted our appetites, why not just give us the name of the company?

accelriskconsult wrote:
Iborian wrote:
You are all misreading the report. OCH never said they were in Korea.



My apologies for not cross checking this. But my argument stands. An Indian parent acquired a local subsidiary of a Singapore company in the 80's. The subsidiary was owned 30% by the GOK who also guaranteed lending by the IFC and a consortium of local banks. Within 3 years of acquisition the company degenerated into a loss making entity. The scam was run in the following manner;
(a) The subsidiary paid inflated management fees to its Indian parent while paying peanuts in royalties to the Kenyan govt (for exploiting a natural resource).
(b) The subsidiary bought obsolete second hand machinery from the parent at the price of new technology machines. Servicing of these machines was especially costly and necessitated bringing on board expats from India, again at inflated costs.
(c)The expats had formed 4 companies that posed as customers and took up a lot of stock towards cut off - to meet targets set by the IFC and other lenders. These 'sales" would be returned after audit or credit notes would be issued to the supposed customers.

Let us just say that the subsidiary closed down and left many people suffering, the government embarrased and the lenders bloodied - with no assets worth selling.




Iborian
#53 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 4:33:15 PM
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Aren't we all wasting our valuable time with this dog? After all with its current market cap, we all know there's a certain gentleman on this forum who could buy it all and have some change to spare?

HINT: His name starts with "O".
Impunity
#54 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 7:04:42 PM
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Iborian wrote:
Aren't we all wasting our valuable time with this dog? After all with its current market cap, we all know there's a certain gentleman on this forum who could buy it all and have some change to spare?

HINT: His name starts with "O".


Ojinga?

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#55 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 8:01:19 PM
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O-lympia? or is it obiero?
@SufficientlyP
erifloss
#56 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 9:51:22 PM
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@ARC, witnessed a similar scam though here they duped a foreign listed company worth over 250b, that came in as a strategic investor. Same story played with the books before the investor came, imported second hand assets & consumables purchased as new at inflated prices, sales within a circle of front companies of the local investors though offshore. To cut it short, about 1.5b of the listed co.s money went down the drain & these were just but conservative figures.
Kind of also reminds me also f Satyam in India.
The scam made me not to trust co.s whose head offices or majority shareholders are registered in countries deemed as tax havens & always talk about their foreign investments that they always have to hype up without results.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
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