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Kibaki and Muthaura humiliated!!!
Brewer
#31 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:38:00 AM
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@ Wote,stop beating about the bush,which standing order? Quote it!
Mpenzi
#32 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:40:00 AM
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@wote
I am,like Brewer,still waiting for you to quote the law that gives Parliament the power to to nullify a gazette notice.
willin2learn
#33 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:55:00 AM
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I find nothing to 'drink to' on the parliament's decision. Aren't they the same ones who 24 hours earlier had voted for the 'mau bill' to compensate their colleagues? That was just a show of might not conscience. I bet if Kibaki had 'consullted' them on Ringera reappointment they would have seconded that without much thought.


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masukuma
#34 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:05:00 AM
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Can parliament be sued?
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McReggae
#35 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:23:00 AM
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What do guyz want Wote to quote,parliament just did wat you guys are asking of,they annulled the gazate notice,it is you to check wat law they used. Why ask questions as if yu have all the laws in your hands to very whether wote would be cheating or saying the truth!!!!

On the hand if Kibaki cannot be humiliated,did any one hear Beth's defence of the same,he asked the MPigs not to 'humiliate' the president!!!

Somebody said that in yesterday's proceedings MK really lacked one Martha Karua,his backers were defending his action using English yet here it is the law that was required!!!!


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Brewer
#36 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:38:00 AM
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McReggae,you really amaze. The whole point of yesterday's parliamentary business was that the reappointment was illegal and that their annulling it was legal. Period!

It is a whole thing to argue with the brilliance and apparent honesty of David Musila,who voted as a matter of principle,and another to justify parliament's action on the basis of law and want us to believe we should not bother citing that law.
masukuma
#37 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:39:00 AM
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Kibaki can choose to just press the ignore button but in the long run he must tow the line or pay ringera from his pocket.
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wote
#38 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:41:00 AM
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brewer,i live in the USA and i suppose you live in Kenya' those events happened in Kenya yesterday,you should have found why the happened and under what law.

mpenzi,i think you are cofusing people here' i already answered your questions' that was not about Ringera the person but rather how he got there(his reappointment as opossed to his competency if he has any) that was an issue and defined to you what a mandamus order is and when its used as opossed what you think it should be.Do yourself a favour and check it out on google,or simple pay me to teach you.



Thanks mcreggae.


wote
Mpenzi
#39 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:51:00 AM
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@wote

You are evading what is a very straight-forward question - what is the provision in the law that empowers parliament to nullify a gazette notice? The fact that you are in the US is irrelevant - all Kenyan laws are online at :

http://www.kenyalaw.org
nanfor
#40 Posted : Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:59:00 AM
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I couldn&rsquo;t miss out on this after I was told about it by a few guys.

As usual we always seem to miss the point. We pray for rain and forget to plant trees.

This is what happened yesterday and forgive me if I don&rsquo;t have all the facts right.

&middot; Someone decided Ringera must go

&middot; Someone said because he was ineffective

&middot; Someone said because it was good politics

&middot; Someone said because of the 'mood' of the nation

&middot; Someone said because it will 'tame' the executive

I don&rsquo;t know Ringera neither I&rsquo;m I privy to the effectiveness of his team or not. As for taming someone who doesn&rsquo;t know there are IDP&rsquo;S,or the mood of the nation,that is a topic for another day.

The question is how it was done and its effects on the Kenyan people. i.e. me as I try and figure out how to buy a piece of property.

By your 'honorable' Mp&rsquo;s deciding in their 'wisdom' that they can now revoke anything in the Kenya Gazette,it means that every time I buy a property in Kenya,some guy who knows a few Mp&rsquo;s can hire them and get my transaction revoked.

Heck. If I want to change my name,parliament can revoke it. If you want to sue anyone,your gazette notice can be revoked by power hungry assholes as long as the other party has the money.

It is all well and good to have the executive follow the law but does it make sense to now allow parliament become the judge and jury to all business transactions in the country?HELL NO!

Remove your faces from Ringera&rsquo;s ass and get to understand what parliament has just done.

They are now in effect the judges to the laws that they create.

If they say KACA is ineffective,by all means,let them with same gusto they had against Ringera now come up with laws that will actually serve me when a policeman asks me for a bribe. Not trying to make me a slave to their politics and personality laden laws.

By the way,this is coming from someone who believes that everyone in gov&rsquo;t including Ringera should be at home watching the grass grow.

When Kenyans will stop thinking about personalities,tribes,parties and any other new gimic,they may start thinking of the effects of some of the actions that these politicians make on their own and their children&rsquo;s lives.
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