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Sober
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:30:41 PM
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I bet one should play it safe in case of price rebound. Like re-buying half the NIC at current 36.00 and if it falls to 32 buy more. The reason being the price may bottom and start heading north too fast by the time you realise it is at 40 which equals the selling price less commission.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
lovely2010
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:40:49 PM
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Sober wrote:
This formula is perfect. I did it with NIC bank last week by seling at 42.
The tricky bit is knowing when the share will slide further, i am in thaty dilema of thinking i should buy (everyday)


If you bought it today @ 36.75 and the share already touched 40 today...note these tradings happened same day. if you do the maths...uko mbele. If demand still continues, you wait till you see when things are about to turn around...and you sell...mara that! that! Or if you trade like me...you sell in bits and you had extra nic you could have made money same day...
lovely2010
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:46:23 PM
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Sober wrote:
I bet one should play it safe in case of price rebound. Like re-buying half the NIC at current 36.00 and if it falls to 32 buy more. The reason being the price may bottom and start heading north too fast by the time you realise it is at 40 which equals the selling price less commission.


Buying in bits after selling works better but you also watch on demand and supply to decide if you should buy in bits or buy with the whole amount...
amolo
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:50:44 PM
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What if after buying at 4/= the price goes even lower. This is NOT a hypothesis. Most counters have not recovered to 2006 levels. Barclays Bank was 90/= at one time and will not get back there soon (am aware of the split). KQ was 90/- and will not get back there soon. Aceess was 32/- , yes 32/- at one time and will not get back there in our lifetime. The formula is okay if you sell at 8/= buy at 4/- and sell again at 8/-. But you could also buy at 4/- and come down to 1/- which I think is where Mumias is headed.
lovely2010
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:05:34 PM
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amolo wrote:
What if after buying at 4/= the price goes even lower. This is NOT a hypothesis. Most counters have not recovered to 2006 levels. Barclays Bank was 90/= at one time and will not get back there soon (am aware of the split). KQ was 90/- and will not get back there soon. Aceess was 32/- , yes 32/- at one time and will not get back there in our lifetime. The formula is okay if you sell at 8/= buy at 4/- and sell again at 8/-. But you could also buy at 4/- and come down to 1/- which I think is where Mumias is headed.


I will use the same mumias example, you have an option of buying in bits...you could buy some @ 4, some @ 3, some @ 2 some @ 1 If you split it this way...you will make more profit or reduce more losses than the one I quoted after buying @ 4...remember, using the same amount. I will do the maths for splitting and post it here...
Sober
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:05:48 PM
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@amolo. You are very right, timing is of utmost importance here as we may never know if they touched a low.
I bought express kenya (my worst of all time) at 24 in 2007 and sold at 18 and when i rebought the shares at 11 i thought i am a genius. I had to dispose them late last year, guess at what price.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Sober
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:07:54 PM
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@lovely2010. Thanks for the insight and using a practical example for the illistration.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Tommy
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:22:16 PM
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@lovely, nice formula though highly probablistic. i think i will put it into practice n see
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
lovely2010
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:37:37 PM
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lovely2010 wrote:
Sober wrote:
This formula is perfect. I did it with NIC bank last week by seling at 42.
The tricky bit is knowing when the share will slide further, i am in thaty dilema of thinking i should buy (everyday)


If you bought it today @ 36.75 and the share already touched 40 today...note these tradings happened same day. if you do the maths...uko mbele. If demand still continues, you wait till you see when things are about to turn around...and you sell...mara that! that! Or if you trade like me...you sell in bits and you had extra nic you could have made money same day...


I will also do posting on this, but I will assume you bought @ 60 sold @ 42. I will show you how you could have made money today and also how you could escape settlement period...ie buy and sell same day...I will use today trading prices...
Sober
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:55:24 PM
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Buy sell same day. Do you mean you buy shares (lower price) while selling others that you had of the same counter at a higher price?! That‘s thoughtfull and it is the way to make money esp when there are large swings.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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