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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
QW25071985
#121 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:24:19 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Don't forget the analysts!

Those of the way of the "We" LLaughing out loudlyL


we ! we ! we ! we ! we ! we !
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#122 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:35:09 PM
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i am seeing guys holding monkeys especially those who dnt know when to sell to lock in their gains when the market does turn on them....
youcan'tstopusnow
#123 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:41:59 PM
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How do you come out and say such a thing as "the majority of investors at the NSE don't know what they are doing?"
the deal, ulifanya research?

Genghis Khan, hiyo theory ya NSE falls in January because of "School Fees" tulikataa. How many of the NSE investors are parents? If we know the percentage of investors who are parents with school-going children is when we can say for sure. Until then hiyo ni porojo...
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#124 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 2:47:24 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Genghis Khan, hiyo theory ya NSE falls in January because of "School Fees" tulikataa. How many of the NSE investors are parents? If we know the percentage of investors who are parents with school-going children is when we can say for sure. Until then hiyo ni porojo...

!! Flawless Fatality !!
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#125 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:08:46 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
How do you come out and say such a thing as "the majority of investors at the NSE don't know what they are doing?"
the deal, ulifanya research?

Genghis Khan, hiyo theory ya NSE falls in January because of "School Fees" tulikataa. How many of the NSE investors are parents? If we know the percentage of investors who are parents with school-going children is when we can say for sure. Until then hiyo ni porojo...


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . no comment .
the deal
#126 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:38:11 PM
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NSE20 failed to add to yesterdays 1% gain, the benchmark declined by 3.8 points or 0.10% to close at 3780. The bourse is oversold and is due for a re rating anytime soon. The Africa Development Bank believes the Kenyan economy will expand by 5.3% in 2011. The Shilling was slightly stronger against the USD, in fact the last time I checked it was trading at 89.90 against the Green buck.

Highlights of the Day

Nation Media Group (NMG) East Africa’s biggest media group declined the most in 1 year after one of its publications the



Daily Nation carried a story in which the paper said a local consortium involving NMG lost a tender to distribute digital media content to a Chinese company, KBC is currently the only sole media content distributor in Kenya. The stock lost as much as Sh10 or 6% to close at Sh152, 1 year return is now 7%, NMG trades on trailing PE of 15.52

Read more here http://www.contrarianinv...-nation-media-group.html
hisah
#127 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 4:09:55 AM
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@The deal - That NMG story plus its stock decline is interesting observation. So is NMG shorting its stock smile

NSSF to enlist professionals to improve investment returns for pensioners. Funds to target the stock market. When those billions hit the market, the effect will be very evident. Stanbic investment is also quoted. Watch that CFC stock...

http://www.businessdaily...20/-/y81uwq/-/index.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
the deal
#128 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:30:11 AM
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[quote=hisah]@The deal - That NMG story plus its stock decline is interesting observation. So is NMG shorting its stock smile

NSSF to enlist professionals to improve investment returns for pensioners. Funds to target the stock market. When those billions hit the market, the effect will be very evident. Stanbic investment is also quoted. Watch that CFC stock...

http://www.businessdaily...0/-/y81uwq/-/index.html[/quote]
Laughing out loudly NMG is on a warpath againsf the chinese company...CFC is not yet at that level where I will be interested remember last year we bought it at 39 and sold at around 80-90 there.
platinum seeker
#129 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 12:34:54 PM
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hisah wrote:
Downside target levels for the NSE index.
Short term 3600 - 3700 (3wks - 6wks)
Mid term 3200 - 3400 (2mths - 5mths)
Long term 2800 - 3000 (6mths onwards).

Since the index is currently oversold, rebound target is 3800 - 3900 short term also likely to be supported by earnings reports esp from banks. The index fell thru this supportl (3900) like a knife, this is now solid resistance with a lot of sellers trapped. At this rebound level expect selling. If indeed the bounce hits 4000 (unlikely), sellers pressure will increase. Then the index slide aiming the bounce floor down to 3400 ensues.

At 3200 - 3400, the rebound aims 3600 -3700 level.

If the elliot wave count (5 down) is correct, sellers fatigue will most likely stop at 2700 - 2800 levels. Look for large volumes below 3000 from smart money. You'll notice with ease since at this level small daily volumes will be moving the market in a sickly fashion.

This is just my view on the current bear setup. Smart may decide to create a floor now or lower. But my gut feeling is from 3000 down, PPT (plunge protection team) will step in. ATS will be 'failing' at times smile Or at times trading ends early (suspended) or trading starts late. PPT masters should know of a term called circuit breakers (CB). They should get the ATS vendors to implement this rather than ATS 'failing' smile

Therefore from 3000 below expect the down pressure to lessen as the index flattens ready for a large bounce from all the extreme selling since 4400 broke down. KE and EA fundamental are rosier than the 1st world by far, so this is a generous buying opportunity tho in small doses for those solid bluechips which deliver dividends.

When the bull reversal starts, I will start another thread on the bull targets. As @youcant once said, I track the index.
Why no index trading?


@hisah been following your posts for a while now. I like your well researched analysis and balanced use of TA and Fundamental Analysis with reference to the NSE and World Markets.

I started taking serious note when your prediction of the US$ reaching 90Ksh came to pass... Keep it up!
Iborian
#130 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 12:39:48 PM
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Huyu hisah mkali kweli.
mwanahisa
#131 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 6:13:33 PM
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The NSE has moved up a notch today - NSE 20 Index Up 20.72 points to close at 3777.41. All Share Index Up 0.17 points to close at 85.57.

That is of course still nothing to get excited about since the overall trend seems rather tepid.

That notwithstanding, there are still chances to trade this market. Of the counters that I bought into last week, I have now exited Cables and divested of most of my Coop. I made about 10% net on Cables and a net of 40 cts per share on Coop. I am still holding onto Equity (awaiting results on Monday), KenGen & NIC.

I am currently underwater on NIC and Equity but I hope next week brings good tidings. KenGen is moving along fine.

Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#132 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 8:19:05 PM
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Watch our NSE Index, figure today, 3777, and the date, and note it down. Could very well be our lowest in months. I could be wrong!
I'm reminded of Sept 15th 2008, a BLACK MONDAY, where stocks fell by 777 points, pushing the Dow below the psychological barrier of 11,000 points following LB filing for bankruptcy and BoA and AIG staring at the same!
@SufficientlyP
the deal
#133 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 8:23:05 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Watch our NSE Index, figure today, 3777, and the date, and note it down. Could very well be our lowest in months. I could be wrong!
I'm reminded of Sept 15th 2008, a BLACK MONDAY, where stocks fell by 777 points, pushing the Dow below the psychological barrier of 11,000 points following LB filing for bankruptcy and BoA and AIG staring at the same!

Superstitions...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#134 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 9:53:04 PM
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@deal ha ha ha, i'm sure u'd love to see the NSE stage a u turn!
By the way, i like your good job, breaking down the numbers and laying them bare for us.
Hope the NSSF billions pulls the market out of slumberland!
@SufficientlyP
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#135 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 11:19:10 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
The NSE has moved up a notch today - NSE 20 Index Up 20.72 points to close at 3777.41. All Share Index Up 0.17 points to close at 85.57.

That is of course still nothing to get excited about since the overall trend seems rather tepid.

That notwithstanding, there are still chances to trade this market. Of the counters that I bought into last week, I have now exited Cables and divested of most of my Coop. I made about 10% net on Cables and a net of 40 cts per share on Coop. I am still holding onto Equity (awaiting results on Monday), KenGen & NIC.

I am currently underwater on NIC and Equity but I hope next week brings good tidings. KenGen is moving along fine.



just reading you post, you wouldd think the bear has gone..Mambo bado though i have filling the next slump is goin to be the last before speculators/shrewd investors step in to push the price.
personally i have seen some very strong stocks that have shown their true colours in hot water.Those are the ones to buy the likes of safcom,k.c.b. etal. OHHHH and ofcourse my darling stock A.K !!!!!!!!!!!!! heheh.
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#136 Posted : Friday, July 22, 2011 11:20:48 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Watch our NSE Index, figure today, 3777, and the date, and note it down. Could very well be our lowest in months. I could be wrong!
I'm reminded of Sept 15th 2008, a BLACK MONDAY, where stocks fell by 777 points, pushing the Dow below the psychological barrier of 11,000 points following LB filing for bankruptcy and BoA and AIG staring at the same!


i totally agree with your view. this bear will be leaving us soon....
when are the general elections being held bytheway . any official statement
the deal
#137 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 7:43:34 PM
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Sober
#138 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 7:48:37 PM
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And safcom trades 98 million shares. I am pretty scared because i dont know what to expect.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
the deal
#139 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 7:54:34 PM
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Sober wrote:
And safcom trades 98 million shares. I am pretty scared because i dont know what to expect.

This is one hell of a long bear my friendPray
Sober
#140 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2011 8:26:47 PM
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the deal wrote:
Sober wrote:
And safcom trades 98 million shares. I am pretty scared because i dont know what to expect.

This is one hell of a long bear my friendPray


Now where did all those trades come from in this bearish market. I‘d wish to get the exact number of deals and the numbers involved.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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