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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
mwanahisa
#111 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:12:30 AM
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@Hisah, I can see we are on the same page. I don't do much in the way of TA but over time (I guess through trial and error) you get a feel of the market. I bought heavily last week, so the bounce is very welcome.
Sober
#112 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:13:29 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Nikuhama. He even sold everything in faNtaSEy market.

Hahahaha Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly nice one!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly the guy is even afraid of ,losing cash in the fantasey market.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
Aguytrying
#113 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:00:49 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
@Hisah, I can see we are on the same page. I don't do much in the way of TA but over time (I guess through trial and error) you get a feel of the market. I bought heavily last week, so the bounce is very welcome.

i third that, i also look for these bounces. Though i dint buy at the very bottom. I pulled the trigger abit early. Mwanahisa, i get what you are saying, i dont do TA, but i have that feel of the market too, due to constant scrutiny. Your co-op is already doing very well.
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mwanahisa
#114 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:13:49 AM
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@AGT, Indeed there seems to be quite some interest in Coop. The one whose behaviour I can't seem to understand at the moment is Equity. But as I have said before even when I speculate, I prefer companies whose fundamentals are sound (or improving) rather than those ones running on pure hype.
Genghis Khan
#115 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:05:16 PM
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My take is that TA creates little value when trading/investing in NSE equities market.

Reason... small market hence its inefficient and responds irrationally in the short term. Fundamentals, when analysed well, take care of the long term quite satisfactorily.

TA does not adequately capture "sentiments" which I believe play a much larger role here than say in NY or JSE. This requires a more qualitative approach...

I think what can pass for valuable TA is mapping the seasonal cycle (eg. january when people pay school fees Sad) of the indices and then imposing other "events" such as corporate announcements, elections, drought, inflation, money market activities (eg. bonds issues) etc.

I also think trading on the NSE has not been "invented" yet... traders (sometimes myself) just speculate without any proper research / TA...
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QW25071985
#116 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:17:09 PM
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Wow. i see some stocks are up.....
those who are buying why are you buying ????? unless you are buying for a 20% gain ( and that being too generous) only to sell...lol. this relief rally isnt seducing me . at all..
i am still waiting for lower prices....
the deal
#117 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:18:25 PM
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@GK you are right on one or two things...the NSE is truly driven by sentiment...very few people who buy shares at the NSE know what theyre doing thats why u see the market tends to be overvalued at times because people will keep on buying and buying as long as the share is rising and do vice versa when the share is falling.

On the issue TA it works on the NSE...you just have to know how to apply...i use it when entering and exiting counters...also when i want determine the overall trend of the market or a specific counter...but rule no1 you have to know the fundamentals of the stock.
Cde Monomotapa
#118 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:51:53 PM
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Don't forget the analysts!
Cde Monomotapa
#119 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:54:15 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Don't forget the analysts!

Those of the way of the "We" LLaughing out loudlyL
Gadaffi
#120 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:15:56 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
Wow. i see some stocks are up.....
those who are buying why are you buying ????? unless you are buying for a 20% gain ( and that being too generous) only to sell...lol. this relief rally isnt seducing me . at all..
i am still waiting for lower prices....

am wit u on this one, just waiting 4 th right time..
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