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Former President Moi - a forest rapist
Magigi
#1 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:12:00 AM
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(This is not a hate mail)
...It is emerging that former dictator Moi was not only a classic study of a tribalist,but was out to plunge the country into a bottomless pit of problems. The list tabled in parliament yesterday of the beneficiaries of mau forest by one courageous Raila Odinga is a clear indication of this fact. He and his tribesmate allocated themselves huge tracts of land not considering the dangers that this would pose to the invironment. Raping our forests is one of the many satanic things Moi did to this country.

Moi should come out and apologise to the whole nation or else he should shut up forever.
The Real Shaft
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:20:00 AM
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if moi is to apologize....

then the family of the first president shoud start...

si alifuata nyayo....

hata kwa apology... wao wa Johnstone Kamau... waanze.....

then if you have bought or built in Nairobi....

hata wewe ...

apologize.....

Karura and Ngong forests were one.....

stop being myopic.....

and as the PM stated....cease making....

'... irresponsible political statements made by irresponsible political agitators...'

stop looking for answers in bars....and Parliament....

na baada ya moi.....

kibaki...

si kazi inaendelea....???
I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
Mainat
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:29:00 AM
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If the mois and kenyattas donated to kenyans half their landholdings,our land issues would be resolved for a generation.

www.mjengakenya.blogspot.com
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Achiever
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:38:00 AM
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apologise...??

aiiiiii.......since when did pple start giving apologies for such....??

apelekwe kamiti kama si hague.....

together with all the other thieves...




don't worry....be happy
Kioko_Nesa
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:40:00 AM
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Allottee


Status/ Position Held


Plot no.


Acres


Value in Ksh. (Approximately )




Kiptagich Tea Farm


Former President Moi


1


197.68


39,536,000.00




Jane Cherotich Chepkwony


Wife to fmr. State House Wilson Chepkwony Comptroller


2


20.04


4,007,962.00




John Kipchumba Lokorio


State House Comptroller


3
552
540


21
10.40
10.40


4,200,700.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Col. Jonathan K. Rono


Former Aide de Camp to Moi


4


20.80


4,161,164




Samon Cheramboss


GSU Commandant


5


18.21


3,642,254.00




Hosea Kiplagat


Cooperative Bank Chairman


6


20.81


4,161,184.00




Mark Too


Chairman Lonrho


7


20.81


4,161,184.00




Zakayo Cheruiyot


Ps,Internal Security (Now MP)


8


20.81


4,161,184.00




Lee Njiru


Head Presidential Press Service


12


25.82


5,184,158.00




Joshua Kulei


Personal Secretary to Moi


13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
59
617


24.22
24.71
19.52
19.52
19.52
19.99
19.52
19.77
20.81
20.81
20.81
19.97
234.00


4,843,160.00
4,942,000.00
3,904,180.00
3,904,180.00
3,904,180.00
3,998,078.00
3,904,180.00
3,953,600.00
4,161,164.00
4,161,164.00
4,161,164.00
3,993,138.00
46,800,740.00




Isaac Ruto


Minister Vocational Training (Now MP)


124


10.40


2,080,582.00




David Kimaiyo


Deputy Commissioner of Police


127


10.40


2,080,582.00




Joseph G Halake


Senior Assistant Director of Survey,Ministry of Lands and Settlement


14

15


24.71

19.52


4,942,000.00

3,904,180.00





Francis Baya


PS,Ministry of Lands and Settlements Rift Valley


16


19.52


3,904,180.00





Alfred K. Chanwon


Director of Land Adjudication and Settlement


17


19.52


3,904,180.00





Samson. K. Biir


General Manager Kiptangich Tea Estate


237
170
171
20
74
75
76
825


5.21
5.21
5.21
19.77
18.53
19.15
19.25
10.40


1,042,762.00
1,042,762.00
1,042,762.00
3,953,600.00
3,706,500.00
3,830,050.00
3,849,818.00
2,080,582.00




Joseph Lotodo


MP Baringo East


24


16.90


3,380,328.00




Philip Ngetich


KETEPA General Manager


28


19.52


3,904,180.00




Major Wilson K. Lalabur


Managing Director National Cereals Board


27


18.21


3,642,254.00





















MUSA SIRMA


MP Eldama Ravine (Now Nominated MP)


28
855
867
887


20.81
10.40
10.40
10.40


4,161,164.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Samuel Bundotich


Director EPZA


29


20.81


4,161,164.00




William Cheruiyot Morogo


Minister Public Works and Housing


30


20.81


4,161,164.00




Reuben Kipkemoi Yegon


Director Brooke Bond


32


19.52


3,904,180.00




Francis Sang


Director CID


35


20.81


4,161,164.00




Augustine Cheserem


Managing Director KPTC


37


20.81


4,161,164.00




Sammy Komen


Commissioner of Lands


35
81
76


20.81
10.40
19.25


4,161,164.00
2,080,582.00
3,849,818.00




Gideon Moi


Son to Former President Moi and owner of Kongoy Farm


46
879
880
882


110.55
10.40
10.40
10.40


22,110,508.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Edward Sambili


Deputy Governor Central Bank (Now PS Planning and husband to Sports Minister)


49


17.42


3,484,110.00




Margaret Ratch


Deputy Director Presidential Press Service


61
429
288
291



17.30
9.12
5.21
5.21


3,459,400.00
1,823,598.00
1,042,762.00
1,042,762.00




Dr. Nehemiah Ngeno


Permanent Secretary Lands


62


18.21


3,642,254






















Dr. Julius Rotich


Anti Corruption Unit


63


18.21


3,642,254.00




Paul Chemngeren


Managing Director Kenya Wine Agencies


64


18.21


3,642,254.00




Samuel Kipchumba


PC,Coast


888


10.40


2,080,582.00




Peter Lagat


DC,Kitui


447


8.90


1,779,120




Margret Kamar


MP,East African Leg. Council – Wife to Biwott,MP


92


10.40


2,080,582.00




Joshua Terer


Ambassador and PS


100
101


10.40
10.40


2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Mark Bor


PS,Local Government


103
104


10.40
10.49


2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Doris Chege


Daughter to Moi


113


10.40


2,080,582.00




Wilson LEITICH


Cllr. Nakuru


115


10.40


2,080,582.00




Joseph Rotich


Deputy Director PPS


119


10.40


2,080,582.00




James Koskei


MP Kuresoi


120


10.40


2,080,582.00




Harun Bomet


MP Rongai


121


10.40


2,080,582.00




Jones Kaleli


Chaplain,Kabarak High School


122


10.40


2,080,582.00




Paul Arap Sang


MP Buret


123


10.40


2,080,582.00




David Kimaiyo


Deputy Police Commissioner


127


10.40


2,080,582.00




Benjamin Sogomo


PS Cooperative Dev. Former TSC SEC.


131


10.40


2,080,582.00

























Solomon Boit


Secretary,Public Service Commission


133


10.40


2,080,582.00




Stephen Kipkabut


DC,Kwale,Under Secretary Public Works


138


10.40


2,080,582.00




William Boit


MP,Baringo


145


10.40


2,080,582.00




Mary Muthoni Mugo


Rtd. Senior Magistrate


148


10.40


2,080,582.00




Isaac Kipchumba


Provincial Settlement Officer,Rift Valley


154


10.40


2,080,582.00




David Kipkemoi Korir


PPO Nyanza


36
156


16.90
10.40


3,380,328
2,080,582.00




Reuben Rotich


Deputy Secretary Ministry of Local Government


158


10.40


2,080,582.00




Francis Sigei


PC,Nairobi


678
738


10.40
10.40


2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Simon Ole Kirgotty


Director,Medical Licensing Board


175


10.40


2,080,582.00




Paul Goto Gene


Director Kenya Commercial Bank


184


8.50


1,299,748




Abdullahi Dabaso Wadera


Under Secretary,Local Government


185


6.50


1,299,745




Philemon Chelegat


Mayor Kabarnet


304


7.81


1,561,872




Philip K.Toroitich


Moi's son


454


10.40


2,080,582.00




Harry Nyapota


Director of Survey


476
828
829
830
831


5.21
10.40
10.40
10.40
10.40


1,042,762
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Shukri Baramede


Senior National Intelligence Officer


543
811


10.40
10.40


2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




Henry Ole Ndiema


Principal Immigration Officer


549


10.40


2,080,582.00




William Changole


DC


550


10.40


2,080,582.00




Joseph Kipkirui Sang


PS Lands


558


5.21


1,042,762





Zablon Mabea


Senior Assistant Commissioner of Lands


679


10.40


2,080,582.00




David Mbuka


Provincial Surveyor Nakuru


693


10.40


2,080,582.00




Justice William Tuiyet


High Court Judge


737


10.40


2,080,582.00




Benjamin Rotich


Deputy PC Rift Valley


788


10.40


2,080,582.00




Aggrey Mudinyu


PC Nyanza


789


10.40


2,080,582.00




Tom Owour


Federation of Kenya Employers Executive Director


634


10.40


2,080,582.00




Peter Raburu


PC Central


872
904


10.40
10.40


2,080,582.00
2,080,582.00




John Mark Moi


Moi's Son


901
903


10.40
10.40


22,080,582.00




Kipkalya Kones


Former Mp


100 Acres





20,000,000




Franklin Bett


MP AND ROADS MINISTER


100 ACRES





20,000,000







































Kioko
The Real Shaft
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:43:00 AM
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Achiever*..

for other crimes....

we have not developed ....

crimes against the environment yet....

like prof would like us to.....

first forest hiving was by one Johnstone wa Kamau.....

I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth
I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
masukuma
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:49:00 AM
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well reported,but all those allotees were given land by the president. the president has powers to de-gazzete any land and allocate to any one including himself,its not illegal but it is immoral.
so hakuna pahali Moi/kenyatta hakuna mahali wanaenda...they had the powers to execute the clause to do what they did.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
kenmac
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:52:00 AM
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If Baba taifa contested for presidency again i would vote for him bila second thoughts,He is the best president kenya ever had..... Na mkae hivyo hivyo.
......Ecclesiastes
Kioko_Nesa
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:53:00 AM
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Please guys don't read this list with a trible mind,A kaleo name appearing does not mean its all Kaleos. I personaly if am told to vote for the best conservatve i would vote for a Kaleo man Julias Kipng'etich. You all know this Dude and what he has done to our wild life.


Kioko
Chaka
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:57:00 AM
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Aiih!!Gweli Genya igo na wenyewe...........
Litro
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:04:00 AM
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@ all,

The problem of land here in Kenya has its root in the partition of Africa by European powers,which was fuelled by the need for raw materials in Europe.
Achiever
#12 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:09:00 AM
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chaka

i agree with you..

kweli wakenya wote ni wakenya ....lakini wengine niwakenya kuliko....


don't worry....be happy
FundamentAli
#13 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:16:00 AM
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Impliment the Ndungu report. I guess we will see a repeat of the same beneficiaries.

I have some Ogiek blood. Do not worry about the percentage of Ogiek blood in me. I do not know how Mau was partitioned without my people knowing. I do not know one beneficiary from my community. Infact,our economic livelihood was also affected as our forest now had new owners. After all,the main reason for giving out the land was to settle the Ogiek. When did Moi and all other Rift Valley Kale leadrers become Ogieki?


Fundamentals + Sentiments = Position
Wendz
#14 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:19:00 AM
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When i heard one GM campaigning so hard for the people settled in Mau (watu wetu) something just did not sound right.... sounded so fake and i knew for sure there was something he was not telling us,then the PM did the honors of unveiling.... and got to know he was just protecting what he benefited from illegally!

Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
Kaigangio
#15 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:40:00 AM
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the eviction resistance is actually not from the poor beneficiaries but the poor rich...

NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Obi 1 Kanobi
#16 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:44:00 AM
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@Masukuma

You cannot defend that kind of irresponsible behaviour. Regardless of what the law says,it was never meant to allow the president such gross abuse of power.

I hope all these allotees are evicted,it will then set a precedent with which to hunt down and strip the Kenyatta,Moi and all others who were given free land elsewhere in the country.

I believe the gravy train that used to be the office of the presidency will stop with this regime.


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Chaka
#17 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:46:00 AM
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How will this saga end?

@Masukuma,does the reverse apply i.e does the prezzi have powers to gazzette

de-gazetted land and unallocate it?If so does he have the balls to do it?
Obi 1 Kanobi
#18 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:58:00 AM
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Is this list complete,

Where is the Catholic Church which the Nation reported was the biggest benficiary with close to 3,000 Ha.

Hata kanisa inaiba. Why would the Catholic church need or accept such a large donation of land.


I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Litro
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:01:00 AM
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@ all,

The problem of land here in Kenya has its root in the partition of Africa by European powers,which was fuelled by the need for raw materials in Europe. Three European countries met at Berlin in the 1884-5 Berlin conference and agreed to divide Africa amongst themselves. In Kenya,the British took control over the land and the natives were concentrated together in special areas called ''reserves''... Fast forward to post independence. There were two groups,one radical faction led by Oginga Odinga and Bildad Kaggia who believed in a radical seizure of the White Highlands ocupied by the white settlers and the liberal faction led by Jomo Kenyatta and Tom Mboya who preferred a cautious approach to land transition.

During the Kenyatta regime,there was redistribution of land through the Million Acre Settlement Scheme which caused animosity and aroused ethnic tension,as the exercise was not fairly undertaken. In particular,tensions arose in regard to the amount of land apportioned in the eastern part of the Rift Valley. About 40% of the total land set aside for resettlement was allocated to Kikuyus because they had been identified by the administration as many of them had been displaced from their land. In tackling the arising tensions,Jomo opted for a political alliance between KANU/KAMATUSA divide. He appointed the alleged rapists of forests as Kenya's 3rd VP,an action that lulled the prevailing ethnic conflicts. This political solution,however had the effect of consigning under the carpet substantive issues about land in the R.V (Thus the PEV and consequently the infamous Waki envelope with enough Mpigs from RV). Jomo's other approach was to contain potential conflicts in the other areas by addressing individual leaders rather than the communities. Some were rewarded with positions in the cabinet and in the parastatals thereby lulling the articulation of ethnic grievances on land.

Kenyatta's approach to dealing with land isues paved the way to a regime of irregular allocation of land. The politicians around Jomo were awarded large tracks of land in RV and Central Province. On the other hand those who fought for independence in the Mau Mau insurrection were not allocated land at all. It can therefore be argued that land grabbing,irregular allocations and other corrupt dealings involving land transactions started during this period.

Upon taking power,Moi had to fuata Nyayo and he did not hesitate to use land as a tool for political patronage. Under pressure from the KAMATUSA group,he rewarded his supporters with land to consolidate his patronage network. (Thus,the list by wa Kanesa full of Kales). During the 1960's Moi belonged to KADU,which opposed KANU over the question of land. They had agitated for Majimbo system of government to safeguard their interest. In the wake of agitations for multi-partism in the early 1990s,the majimbo card was used to intimidate and fight those agitating for Majimbo (Similar to 2007). The politically instigated ''tribal/land clashes'' were a direct consequence of this strategy and manipulation fo ethnic fears of the hitherto peacefully existing communities. As a result of the clashes,many legitimate owners of land in RV wer evicted from their lands.

Both Jomos and Mois regimes regarded land as a tool for political manipulation and patronage. They did not have the moral conviction to deal rationally with the time bomb that the land question continues to be. Things apparently became worse during Mooi's regime. Moi came to power with a thin political support base compared to Jomo who came to power at a time when the nationalistic euphoria still engulfed the nation. The need to extract resources for patronage was therefore of greater urgency for Moi than it was for Kenyatta. As,a result,Moi's tenure saw the exploitation of lands belonging to agricultural institutions,research institutions,the military and forestlands among others,for personal gain. Indeed,the culture of land grabbing became an institutionalised public indertaking.

** I have intentionally avoided Gen. Kiguoya regime in this,since as the name suggests things are still thick.
Impunity
#20 Posted : Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:35:00 AM
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This list is also heavily doctored.Hii Kenya yetu?

WHY???Because there is no way Former PC Peter Raburu who was and I believe still is a saved christian could engage his dignity to such satanic destruction of forestland.


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