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Former President Moi - a forest rapist
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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(This is not a hate mail) ...It is emerging that former dictator Moi was not only a classic study of a tribalist,but was out to plunge the country into a bottomless pit of problems. The list tabled in parliament yesterday of the beneficiaries of mau forest by one courageous Raila Odinga is a clear indication of this fact. He and his tribesmate allocated themselves huge tracts of land not considering the dangers that this would pose to the invironment. Raping our forests is one of the many satanic things Moi did to this country.
Moi should come out and apologise to the whole nation or else he should shut up forever.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839
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if moi is to apologize.... then the family of the first president shoud start... si alifuata nyayo.... hata kwa apology... wao wa Johnstone Kamau... waanze..... then if you have bought or built in Nairobi.... hata wewe ... apologize..... Karura and Ngong forests were one..... stop being myopic..... and as the PM stated....cease making.... '... irresponsible political statements made by irresponsible political agitators...' stop looking for answers in bars....and Parliament.... na baada ya moi..... kibaki... si kazi inaendelea....??? I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/21/2006 Posts: 1,590
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If the mois and kenyattas donated to kenyans half their landholdings,our land issues would be resolved for a generation. www.mjengakenya.blogspot.comSehemu ndio nyumba
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/12/2009 Posts: 152
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apologise...??
aiiiiii.......since when did pple start giving apologies for such....??
apelekwe kamiti kama si hague.....
together with all the other thieves...
don't worry....be happy
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2007 Posts: 87
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Allottee Status/ Position Held Plot no. Acres Value in Ksh. (Approximately ) Kiptagich Tea Farm Former President Moi 1 197.68 39,536,000.00 Jane Cherotich Chepkwony Wife to fmr. State House Wilson Chepkwony Comptroller 2 20.04 4,007,962.00 John Kipchumba Lokorio State House Comptroller 3 552 540 21 10.40 10.40 4,200,700.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Col. Jonathan K. Rono Former Aide de Camp to Moi 4 20.80 4,161,164 Samon Cheramboss GSU Commandant 5 18.21 3,642,254.00 Hosea Kiplagat Cooperative Bank Chairman 6 20.81 4,161,184.00 Mark Too Chairman Lonrho 7 20.81 4,161,184.00 Zakayo Cheruiyot Ps,Internal Security (Now MP) 8 20.81 4,161,184.00 Lee Njiru Head Presidential Press Service 12 25.82 5,184,158.00 Joshua Kulei Personal Secretary to Moi 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 59 617 24.22 24.71 19.52 19.52 19.52 19.99 19.52 19.77 20.81 20.81 20.81 19.97 234.00 4,843,160.00 4,942,000.00 3,904,180.00 3,904,180.00 3,904,180.00 3,998,078.00 3,904,180.00 3,953,600.00 4,161,164.00 4,161,164.00 4,161,164.00 3,993,138.00 46,800,740.00 Isaac Ruto Minister Vocational Training (Now MP) 124 10.40 2,080,582.00 David Kimaiyo Deputy Commissioner of Police 127 10.40 2,080,582.00 Joseph G Halake Senior Assistant Director of Survey,Ministry of Lands and Settlement 14 15 24.71 19.52 4,942,000.00 3,904,180.00 Francis Baya PS,Ministry of Lands and Settlements Rift Valley 16 19.52 3,904,180.00 Alfred K. Chanwon Director of Land Adjudication and Settlement 17 19.52 3,904,180.00 Samson. K. Biir General Manager Kiptangich Tea Estate 237 170 171 20 74 75 76 825 5.21 5.21 5.21 19.77 18.53 19.15 19.25 10.40 1,042,762.00 1,042,762.00 1,042,762.00 3,953,600.00 3,706,500.00 3,830,050.00 3,849,818.00 2,080,582.00 Joseph Lotodo MP Baringo East 24 16.90 3,380,328.00 Philip Ngetich KETEPA General Manager 28 19.52 3,904,180.00 Major Wilson K. Lalabur Managing Director National Cereals Board 27 18.21 3,642,254.00 MUSA SIRMA MP Eldama Ravine (Now Nominated MP) 28 855 867 887 20.81 10.40 10.40 10.40 4,161,164.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Samuel Bundotich Director EPZA 29 20.81 4,161,164.00 William Cheruiyot Morogo Minister Public Works and Housing 30 20.81 4,161,164.00 Reuben Kipkemoi Yegon Director Brooke Bond 32 19.52 3,904,180.00 Francis Sang Director CID 35 20.81 4,161,164.00 Augustine Cheserem Managing Director KPTC 37 20.81 4,161,164.00 Sammy Komen Commissioner of Lands 35 81 76 20.81 10.40 19.25 4,161,164.00 2,080,582.00 3,849,818.00 Gideon Moi Son to Former President Moi and owner of Kongoy Farm 46 879 880 882 110.55 10.40 10.40 10.40 22,110,508.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Edward Sambili Deputy Governor Central Bank (Now PS Planning and husband to Sports Minister) 49 17.42 3,484,110.00 Margaret Ratch Deputy Director Presidential Press Service 61 429 288 291 17.30 9.12 5.21 5.21 3,459,400.00 1,823,598.00 1,042,762.00 1,042,762.00 Dr. Nehemiah Ngeno Permanent Secretary Lands 62 18.21 3,642,254 Dr. Julius Rotich Anti Corruption Unit 63 18.21 3,642,254.00 Paul Chemngeren Managing Director Kenya Wine Agencies 64 18.21 3,642,254.00 Samuel Kipchumba PC,Coast 888 10.40 2,080,582.00 Peter Lagat DC,Kitui 447 8.90 1,779,120 Margret Kamar MP,East African Leg. Council – Wife to Biwott,MP 92 10.40 2,080,582.00 Joshua Terer Ambassador and PS 100 101 10.40 10.40 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Mark Bor PS,Local Government 103 104 10.40 10.49 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Doris Chege Daughter to Moi 113 10.40 2,080,582.00 Wilson LEITICH Cllr. Nakuru 115 10.40 2,080,582.00 Joseph Rotich Deputy Director PPS 119 10.40 2,080,582.00 James Koskei MP Kuresoi 120 10.40 2,080,582.00 Harun Bomet MP Rongai 121 10.40 2,080,582.00 Jones Kaleli Chaplain,Kabarak High School 122 10.40 2,080,582.00 Paul Arap Sang MP Buret 123 10.40 2,080,582.00 David Kimaiyo Deputy Police Commissioner 127 10.40 2,080,582.00 Benjamin Sogomo PS Cooperative Dev. Former TSC SEC. 131 10.40 2,080,582.00 Solomon Boit Secretary,Public Service Commission 133 10.40 2,080,582.00 Stephen Kipkabut DC,Kwale,Under Secretary Public Works 138 10.40 2,080,582.00 William Boit MP,Baringo 145 10.40 2,080,582.00 Mary Muthoni Mugo Rtd. Senior Magistrate 148 10.40 2,080,582.00 Isaac Kipchumba Provincial Settlement Officer,Rift Valley 154 10.40 2,080,582.00 David Kipkemoi Korir PPO Nyanza 36 156 16.90 10.40 3,380,328 2,080,582.00 Reuben Rotich Deputy Secretary Ministry of Local Government 158 10.40 2,080,582.00 Francis Sigei PC,Nairobi 678 738 10.40 10.40 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Simon Ole Kirgotty Director,Medical Licensing Board 175 10.40 2,080,582.00 Paul Goto Gene Director Kenya Commercial Bank 184 8.50 1,299,748 Abdullahi Dabaso Wadera Under Secretary,Local Government 185 6.50 1,299,745 Philemon Chelegat Mayor Kabarnet 304 7.81 1,561,872 Philip K.Toroitich Moi's son 454 10.40 2,080,582.00 Harry Nyapota Director of Survey 476 828 829 830 831 5.21 10.40 10.40 10.40 10.40 1,042,762 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Shukri Baramede Senior National Intelligence Officer 543 811 10.40 10.40 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 Henry Ole Ndiema Principal Immigration Officer 549 10.40 2,080,582.00 William Changole DC 550 10.40 2,080,582.00 Joseph Kipkirui Sang PS Lands 558 5.21 1,042,762 Zablon Mabea Senior Assistant Commissioner of Lands 679 10.40 2,080,582.00 David Mbuka Provincial Surveyor Nakuru 693 10.40 2,080,582.00 Justice William Tuiyet High Court Judge 737 10.40 2,080,582.00 Benjamin Rotich Deputy PC Rift Valley 788 10.40 2,080,582.00 Aggrey Mudinyu PC Nyanza 789 10.40 2,080,582.00 Tom Owour Federation of Kenya Employers Executive Director 634 10.40 2,080,582.00 Peter Raburu PC Central 872 904 10.40 10.40 2,080,582.00 2,080,582.00 John Mark Moi Moi's Son 901 903 10.40 10.40 22,080,582.00 Kipkalya Kones Former Mp 100 Acres 20,000,000 Franklin Bett MP AND ROADS MINISTER 100 ACRES 20,000,000
Kioko
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2008 Posts: 839
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Achiever*.. for other crimes.... we have not developed .... crimes against the environment yet.... like prof would like us to..... first forest hiving was by one Johnstone wa Kamau..... I'm the real Massey F.....shut your mouth I'm the real Massey Fergu...... Shut your mouth....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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well reported,but all those allotees were given land by the president. the president has powers to de-gazzete any land and allocate to any one including himself,its not illegal but it is immoral. so hakuna pahali Moi/kenyatta hakuna mahali wanaenda...they had the powers to execute the clause to do what they did. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/26/2009 Posts: 1,793
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If Baba taifa contested for presidency again i would vote for him bila second thoughts,He is the best president kenya ever had..... Na mkae hivyo hivyo.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/8/2007 Posts: 87
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Please guys don't read this list with a trible mind,A kaleo name appearing does not mean its all Kaleos. I personaly if am told to vote for the best conservatve i would vote for a Kaleo man Julias Kipng'etich. You all know this Dude and what he has done to our wild life.
Kioko
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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Aiih!!Gweli Genya igo na wenyewe...........
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 120 Location: KENYA
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@ all,
The problem of land here in Kenya has its root in the partition of Africa by European powers,which was fuelled by the need for raw materials in Europe.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/12/2009 Posts: 152
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chaka
i agree with you..
kweli wakenya wote ni wakenya ....lakini wengine niwakenya kuliko....
don't worry....be happy
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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Impliment the Ndungu report. I guess we will see a repeat of the same beneficiaries.
I have some Ogiek blood. Do not worry about the percentage of Ogiek blood in me. I do not know how Mau was partitioned without my people knowing. I do not know one beneficiary from my community. Infact,our economic livelihood was also affected as our forest now had new owners. After all,the main reason for giving out the land was to settle the Ogiek. When did Moi and all other Rift Valley Kale leadrers become Ogieki?
Fundamentals + Sentiments = Position
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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When i heard one GM campaigning so hard for the people settled in Mau (watu wetu) something just did not sound right.... sounded so fake and i knew for sure there was something he was not telling us,then the PM did the honors of unveiling.... and got to know he was just protecting what he benefited from illegally!
Some deals are like glass. Sometimes it's better to leave them broken than try to hurt yourself putting it back together.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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the eviction resistance is actually not from the poor beneficiaries but the poor rich... NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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@Masukuma You cannot defend that kind of irresponsible behaviour. Regardless of what the law says,it was never meant to allow the president such gross abuse of power. I hope all these allotees are evicted,it will then set a precedent with which to hunt down and strip the Kenyatta,Moi and all others who were given free land elsewhere in the country. I believe the gravy train that used to be the office of the presidency will stop with this regime. I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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How will this saga end?
@Masukuma,does the reverse apply i.e does the prezzi have powers to gazzette
de-gazetted land and unallocate it?If so does he have the balls to do it?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Is this list complete, Where is the Catholic Church which the Nation reported was the biggest benficiary with close to 3,000 Ha. Hata kanisa inaiba. Why would the Catholic church need or accept such a large donation of land. I've noticed the youth in particular coming in to a workplace with a completely outsized notion of their own value and importance... just a thinly-veiled arrogance. May be the credit crunch induced recession is whats needed to remind us all about the value of hard work.... By Anonymous "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 120 Location: KENYA
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@ all,
The problem of land here in Kenya has its root in the partition of Africa by European powers,which was fuelled by the need for raw materials in Europe. Three European countries met at Berlin in the 1884-5 Berlin conference and agreed to divide Africa amongst themselves. In Kenya,the British took control over the land and the natives were concentrated together in special areas called ''reserves''... Fast forward to post independence. There were two groups,one radical faction led by Oginga Odinga and Bildad Kaggia who believed in a radical seizure of the White Highlands ocupied by the white settlers and the liberal faction led by Jomo Kenyatta and Tom Mboya who preferred a cautious approach to land transition.
During the Kenyatta regime,there was redistribution of land through the Million Acre Settlement Scheme which caused animosity and aroused ethnic tension,as the exercise was not fairly undertaken. In particular,tensions arose in regard to the amount of land apportioned in the eastern part of the Rift Valley. About 40% of the total land set aside for resettlement was allocated to Kikuyus because they had been identified by the administration as many of them had been displaced from their land. In tackling the arising tensions,Jomo opted for a political alliance between KANU/KAMATUSA divide. He appointed the alleged rapists of forests as Kenya's 3rd VP,an action that lulled the prevailing ethnic conflicts. This political solution,however had the effect of consigning under the carpet substantive issues about land in the R.V (Thus the PEV and consequently the infamous Waki envelope with enough Mpigs from RV). Jomo's other approach was to contain potential conflicts in the other areas by addressing individual leaders rather than the communities. Some were rewarded with positions in the cabinet and in the parastatals thereby lulling the articulation of ethnic grievances on land.
Kenyatta's approach to dealing with land isues paved the way to a regime of irregular allocation of land. The politicians around Jomo were awarded large tracks of land in RV and Central Province. On the other hand those who fought for independence in the Mau Mau insurrection were not allocated land at all. It can therefore be argued that land grabbing,irregular allocations and other corrupt dealings involving land transactions started during this period.
Upon taking power,Moi had to fuata Nyayo and he did not hesitate to use land as a tool for political patronage. Under pressure from the KAMATUSA group,he rewarded his supporters with land to consolidate his patronage network. (Thus,the list by wa Kanesa full of Kales). During the 1960's Moi belonged to KADU,which opposed KANU over the question of land. They had agitated for Majimbo system of government to safeguard their interest. In the wake of agitations for multi-partism in the early 1990s,the majimbo card was used to intimidate and fight those agitating for Majimbo (Similar to 2007). The politically instigated ''tribal/land clashes'' were a direct consequence of this strategy and manipulation fo ethnic fears of the hitherto peacefully existing communities. As a result of the clashes,many legitimate owners of land in RV wer evicted from their lands.
Both Jomos and Mois regimes regarded land as a tool for political manipulation and patronage. They did not have the moral conviction to deal rationally with the time bomb that the land question continues to be. Things apparently became worse during Mooi's regime. Moi came to power with a thin political support base compared to Jomo who came to power at a time when the nationalistic euphoria still engulfed the nation. The need to extract resources for patronage was therefore of greater urgency for Moi than it was for Kenyatta. As,a result,Moi's tenure saw the exploitation of lands belonging to agricultural institutions,research institutions,the military and forestlands among others,for personal gain. Indeed,the culture of land grabbing became an institutionalised public indertaking.
** I have intentionally avoided Gen. Kiguoya regime in this,since as the name suggests things are still thick.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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This list is also heavily doctored.Hii Kenya yetu? WHY???Because there is no way Former PC Peter Raburu who was and I believe still is a saved christian could engage his dignity to such satanic destruction of forestland. The Hague...or Local Triburnal ama TJRC. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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