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2 Miles
#11 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:32:36 PM
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Sophie Naliaka's story could be very true.

The methods they use to make people join are not as voluntary as they may sound.

A priest friend ( from the Consolata Missionaries ) wasn't very enthusiastic about this organisation when I mentioned the organisation to him.
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liomungai
#12 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:48:04 PM
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she said it very well, it was out of her own free will. she was my classmate for four years and a very intelligent lady and her desire to belong led her to opus dei - we all have to appreciate their good work especially in education.
Being at Strathmore I got to attend many sessions at Mbagathi and nobody forced me to join them and I never became a member. I have many friends who are members and it takes special characters...
People who look for easy money invariably pay for the privilege of proving conclusively that it cannot be found on this sordid earth
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winston
#13 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:44:43 PM
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The call to serve is never a forced one. It is not slavery that one must be lured and trapped.

I have friends who are opus dei...and they are societal models in their own right.

Seems to me the parents want their no-longer-small-girl to do their will rather than her own will...or to put it differently, God's will in her life.
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Ms Mkenya
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:56:26 PM
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That is an adult.. I don't even know why the court allowed the case to be filed..
....above all, to stand.
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Euge
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:37:51 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
That is an adult.. I don't even know why the court allowed the case to be filed..


Ms Mkenya there you go. We are talking of a 25 year old? My foot!I wonder why her parents are complaining. She should be the one complaining.
Lord, thank you!
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Euge
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:39:29 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
That is an adult.. I don't even know why the court allowed the case to be filed..


Ms Mkenya there you go. We are talking of a 25 year old? My foot!I wonder why her parents are complaining. She should be the one complaining.
Lord, thank you!
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Cardinal
#17 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:36:28 AM
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Do not underestimate the pressure that non opus dei members get from opus dei members, especially in institutions like strathmore that stand for opus dei.

Opus dei apply aggressive recruiting strategies to get new members who are then brainwashed to believe that they have a calling.

There are centers that do this,e.g fanusi, mbagathi and keri center in strathmore, where young students are invited to attend barbecues, excursions,e.t.c without knowing that they are slowly being recruited.

Opus dei isn't a bad organization at all, it has good people in it.

Regarding this girl,well she is over 18, her wishes should be respected but she shouldn't be under any coercion to stay at Fanusi whilst her parents wants to see her regularly as their only daughter and first born.
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mukiha
#18 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:04:16 AM
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Whom between these two do we believe?


liomungai wrote:
she said it very well, it was out of her own free will. she was my classmate for four years and a very intelligent lady and her desire to belong led her to opus dei - we all have to appreciate their good work especially in education.
Being at Strathmore I got to attend many sessions at Mbagathi and nobody forced me to join them and I never became a member. I have many friends who are members and it takes special characters...



Cardinal wrote:
Do not underestimate the pressure that non opus dei members get from opus dei members, especially in institutions like strathmore that stand for opus dei.

Opus dei apply aggressive recruiting strategies to get new members who are then brainwashed to believe that they have a calling.

There are centers that do this,e.g fanusi, mbagathi and keri center in strathmore, where young students are invited to attend barbecues, excursions,e.t.c without knowing that they are slowly being recruited.

Opus dei isn't a bad organization at all, it has good people in it.

Regarding this girl,well she is over 18, her wishes should be respected but she shouldn't be under any coercion to stay at Fanusi whilst her parents wants to see her regularly as their only daughter and first born.


Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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mukiha
#19 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:11:58 AM
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It seems to me that many people find it hard to believe that one can commit to a life of helping fellow human beings for absolutely no pay in return.

I remember watching a Japanese game show on TV with my 22-year-old nice. Participants are given very difficult tasks to complete - like hand-walking along a path with numerous hurdles. Halfway through, my nice asked me what prizes the guys were competing for. I told her I didn't think there was any - I had never seen anyone getting anything.

She was shocked and responded: "You mean they do all this for nothing!?"

I asked her: "can't you do something for the fun of it?"

"No way!" was her answer.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Ms Mkenya
#20 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:24:45 AM
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@Mukiha, Religion (or the lack of it) is often an emotive issue, hence the strong differences in opinion. I would say this is perfectly normal.

However, the parents cannot fight her word and win. If she wants to be there so be it. Might it be a case of a parent not accepting their daughter's choice in life?
....above all, to stand.
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