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How to tell NSE has bottomed out
Cde Monomotapa
#41 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 6:49:43 PM
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FUNKY wrote:
Carbacid at 111/- today i consider it very cheap. It's a really good buy right now.

150 can print on a sunny day smile
Cde Monomotapa
#42 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 6:52:28 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I'm invested, but i love what is happening to the n.s.e. Why? Its an opportunity to buy, and by 2013, which ever way elections go the market will recover. Like last time, besides, i'm rather optimistic of a peaceful election.

Take heed...
Sober
#43 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 6:55:49 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
I'm invested, but i love what is happening to the n.s.e. Why? Its an opportunity to buy, and by 2013, which ever way elections go the market will recover. Like last time, besides, i'm rather optimistic of a peaceful election.

Take heed...


Going by what you just said, it means the market will not recover until after the next general elections. This simply means that the thing has not yet bottomed out as most of us are feeling.
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Cde Monomotapa
#44 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 7:06:13 PM
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Sober wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
I'm invested, but i love what is happening to the n.s.e. Why? Its an opportunity to buy, and by 2013, which ever way elections go the market will recover. Like last time, besides, i'm rather optimistic of a peaceful election.

Take heed...


Going by what you just said, it means the market will not recover until after the next general elections. This simply means that the thing has not yet bottomed out as most of us are feeling.

"Bulls & Bears make money, pigs get slaughterd"
Aguytrying
#45 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 7:43:10 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@Aguy guess we both thought our KGN buys were the mkt discounts b4 they turned premiums Laughing out loudly ain't no thang though, we r still in it to win. I know we are both in KCB so let's focus on our H1s nxt week!

true true. But it still believe kengen will bounce back to 15, as for kcb, i'm a very proud new shareholder. Been buying since 24.50 going down. I hope the market recovers before H1, so as not to dampen the good effects. We wait.
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Cde Monomotapa
#46 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 7:47:55 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@Aguy guess we both thought our KGN buys were the mkt discounts b4 they turned premiums Laughing out loudly ain't no thang though, we r still in it to win. I know we are both in KCB so let's focus on our H1s nxt week!

true true. But it still believe kengen will bounce back to 15, as for kcb, i'm a very proud new shareholder. Been buying since 24.50 going down. I hope the market recovers before H1, so as not to dampen the good effects. We wait.

Sawaz...
Aguytrying
#47 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 7:50:33 PM
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Sober wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=Aguytrying]I'm invested, but i love what is happening to the n.s.e. Why? Its an opportunity to buy, and by 2013, which ever way elections go the market will recover. Like last time, besides, i'm rather optimistic of a peaceful election.

Take heed...


Going by what you just said, it means the market will not recover until after the next general elections. This simply means that the thing has not yet bottomed out as most of us are feeling. [/quote not what i meant, i expect these ups and downs till elections, and i think they will get worse. Just as hisah. But my point is, if one can hold out to 2013, the current prices are good.
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Cde Monomotapa
#48 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 7:53:49 PM
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Oh..for the record my KCB Av.is 20.5. I'm sufficiently packed up...now open to capital & dividend returns.
Cde Monomotapa
#49 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 8:02:16 PM
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Hey..the NSE has been re-classified. Interesting stuff! We have a Tech Segment now! S.com & AK..for more go on to www.nse.co.ke
erifloss
#50 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 9:25:59 PM
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Not yet bottomed out. Bargains are yet to come...
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
hisah
#51 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:52:04 AM
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Downside target levels for the NSE index.
Short term 3600 - 3700 (3wks - 6wks)
Mid term 3200 - 3400 (2mths - 5mths)
Long term 2800 - 3000 (6mths onwards).

Since the index is currently oversold, rebound target is 3800 - 3900 short term also likely to be supported by earnings reports esp from banks. The index fell thru this supportl (3900) like a knife, this is now solid resistance with a lot of sellers trapped. At this rebound level expect selling. If indeed the bounce hits 4000 (unlikely), sellers pressure will increase. Then the index slide aiming the bounce floor down to 3400 ensues.

At 3200 - 3400, the rebound aims 3600 -3700 level.

If the elliot wave count (5 down) is correct, sellers fatigue will most likely stop at 2700 - 2800 levels. Look for large volumes below 3000 from smart money. You'll notice with ease since at this level small daily volumes will be moving the market in a sickly fashion.

This is just my view on the current bear setup. Smart may decide to create a floor now or lower. But my gut feeling is from 3000 down, PPT (plunge protection team) will step in. ATS will be 'failing' at times smile Or at times trading ends early (suspended) or trading starts late. PPT masters should know of a term called circuit breakers (CB). They should get the ATS vendors to implement this rather than ATS 'failing' smile

Therefore from 3000 below expect the down pressure to lessen as the index flattens ready for a large bounce from all the extreme selling since 4400 broke down. KE and EA fundamental are rosier than the 1st world by far, so this is a generous buying opportunity tho in small doses for those solid bluechips which deliver dividends.

When the bull reversal starts, I will start another thread on the bull targets. As @youcant once said, I track the index.
Why no index trading?
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
youcan'tstopusnow
#52 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:51:00 AM
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All Share Index at 87.46. What's your target for this?
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youcan'tstopusnow
#53 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:53:16 AM
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hisah wrote:
ATS will be 'failing' at times smile Or at times trading ends early (suspended) or trading starts late.

If online trading systems fail when the market is at 3000 levels, we'll physically go the broker. Hope you still won't be in Malaysia thenSad
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#54 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:32:48 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
When (not if) the property market slows down... the cash will look for a new place... where do you think that will be?


To back up VVS:
Supply increase tips homes market in favour of buyers
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Cde Monomotapa
#55 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:40:57 AM
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My "basket of goods" has passed a 3,700pts stress-test. Wonder how it would look @ 3,300 (I like to forget Laughing out loudly)
the deal
#56 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:22:11 AM
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The NSE20 rose for the first time in 8 Days, the measure gained 36 points or 0.97% to close at 3782, 52 Week return now stands at -13% compared to other indexes on the African Continent i.e the Namibia Stock Exchange has returned over 11% over the same period, the NSE20 is deeply oversold and cheap, i expect a rally from this levels maybe up to the 3900 mark but the overall picture is bearish. The Shilling weakened further against the USD, in fact the last time i checked, the shilling was trading at 89.70 against the green buck


Read more here http://www.contrarianinv...-by-bellwether-safaricom
Cde Monomotapa
#57 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:21:56 AM
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[quote=the deal]

The NSE20 rose for the first time in 8 Days, the measure gained 36 points or 0.97% to close at 3782, 52 Week return now stands at -13% compared to other indexes on the African Continent i.e the Namibia Stock Exchange has returned over 11% over the same period, the NSE20 is deeply oversold and cheap, i expect a rally from this levels maybe up to the 3900 mark but the overall picture is bearish. The Shilling weakened further against the USD, in fact the last time i checked, the shilling was trading at 89.70 against the green buck


Read more here http://www.contrarianinv...by-bellwether-safaricom[/quote]
S.com provided a good boost no doubt.
hisah
#58 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:31:12 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
All Share Index at 87.46. What's your target for this?

No large timeframe metrics for NASI, thus difficult to track. Besides the bluechips on NSE20 index are a good indicator.
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mwanahisa
#59 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 12:36:46 PM
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So yuou are the guy who gifted me NIC @ 40 yesterday - or was it a poisoned chalice. I just could not resist it. This is a purely speculative position. Target 43.50-44 by months end!

Sober wrote:
I knew things were thick when total kenya hit the record low of 26 (it‘s now trading at 23) i cashed out my major and remained with NIC which i just disposed of today.

mwekez@ji
#60 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2011 9:55:44 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
"Bulls & Bears make money, pigs get slaughterd"


Woe unto bears because going short is not possible in NSE!!!
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