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USA ON THE VERGE OF DEBT DEFAULT...*#@*&!!!!
mwanahisa
#31 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:18:20 AM
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The tide is certainly turning. Uncle Sam is steadily losing the top perch especially in terms of how the rest of the world perceives them.

Listened to one analyst quipping about how Greece's debt per capita is below that of the U.S.A. Is that really true?
hisah
#32 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:03:10 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
The tide is certainly turning. Uncle Sam is steadily losing the top perch especially in terms of how the rest of the world perceives them.

Listened to one analyst quipping about how Greece's debt per capita is below that of the U.S.A. Is that really true?

When it comes to the US, no comment... This shell died a long time ago... Zombie mode on...

Have a look at what is going on with Minnesota state shutdown now entering day 13 - longest shutdown of the any state...

http://www.kimt.com/cont...-AN83EmA8W2RDihzBQ.cspx

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
2012
#33 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:27:48 AM
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The US is not going to default and if they do it would not be by default. We all know that Republicans are trying to dangle the carrot at the poor black president but they'll come to their senses. As I'd said earlier If they do default it would be to hurt China who is the biggest creditor by country to the US with over $1trillion. Don't underestimate the US, they set the standards under which we all operate when it comes to economics.

That said, I was watching Piers Morgan jana and he had an interesting guest who eluded to say China is slowly becoming the new US with their kids studying all over the world and topping their classes. While Americans spend a big part of their budget on their military, .5m soldiers deployed out of the US, the Chinese are only spending on research and new technology and weaponry.

A chinese leader was interviewed and he said "rather than kill you, I'd rather have you as my friends so I can make products you need and sell to you, that way we're all happy". Now isn't that simple logic? What do you have in your house that's made in America? And what do you have in your house that's not made in China?

BBI will solve it
:)
jasonhill
#34 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:30:13 AM
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Location: Chicago, IL, USA
hisah wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
The tide is certainly turning. Uncle Sam is steadily losing the top perch especially in terms of how the rest of the world perceives them.

Listened to one analyst quipping about how Greece's debt per capita is below that of the U.S.A. Is that really true?

When it comes to the US, no comment... This shell died a long time ago... Zombie mode on...

Have a look at what is going on with Minnesota state shutdown now entering day 13 - longest shutdown of the any state...

http://www.kimt.com/cont...-AN83EmA8W2RDihzBQ.cspx



Speaking of zombie mode:

http://english.aljazeera.../20117313948379987.html

And I only post that link not to derail this thread, but because under the "opinion" section, there are a number of interesting articles on this subject.

Best,

Hill
Kirika
#35 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:35:22 AM
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China and US are joined at the hip. A default would mean China's rapid ascent will be jeopardized.

Currently, China is the biggest holder of US debt instruments followed by Japan.

That's why China is jittery about US devaluing the dollar!

But i wonder what a US default would portend for Africa?
Cde Monomotapa
#36 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:38:27 AM
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hisah wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
The tide is certainly turning. Uncle Sam is steadily losing the top perch especially in terms of how the rest of the world perceives them.

Listened to one analyst quipping about how Greece's debt per capita is below that of the U.S.A. Is that really true?

When it comes to the US, no comment... This shell died a long time ago... Zombie mode on...

Have a look at what is going on with Minnesota state shutdown now entering day 13 - longest shutdown of the any state...

http://www.kimt.com/cont...-AN83EmA8W2RDihzBQ.cspx


Dudes! Niku-gwan!
Drunkard
#37 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:47:49 PM
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...According to 14th Amendment, section 4 of the US constitution, it is unconstitutional for US government to default on it's debt obligation. How amazing is the US constitution keep it up to whoever wrote it.
jasonhill
#38 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:46:40 PM
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Drunkard wrote:
...According to 14th Amendment, section 4 of the US constitution, it is unconstitutional for US government to default on it's debt obligation. How amazing is the US constitution keep it up to whoever wrote it.


Besides the fact that most Americans couldn't tell you TWO amendments, that document has been long shredded. I think GW Bush used the last scrap of it to roll up some bhang.

Best,

Hill
hisah
#39 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 4:56:22 AM
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jasonhill wrote:
Drunkard wrote:
...According to 14th Amendment, section 4 of the US constitution, it is unconstitutional for US government to default on it's debt obligation. How amazing is the US constitution keep it up to whoever wrote it.


Besides the fact that most Americans couldn't tell you TWO amendments, that document has been long shredded. I think GW Bush used the last scrap of it to roll up some bhang.

Best,

Hill

If indeed they have any constitution, that private Fed bank shouldn't be existing in the first place and with any mandate to print dollars. This is why Andrew Jackson shut it down for the 2nd time in 1800s. This is why I'm no supporter of any political or monetary structure. Too much power given to these institutions that it is hard not tempt individuals to abet covert schemes. Power corrupts, too much power corrupts even more.
If you look at the performance of IMF or World bank since the 70s to date how helpful have they been to 3rd world nations? 3rd world nations have deliberate weak political structures mostly inherited from their colonial masters, meant for exploitation by the same masters who also happen to benefit the most from the so called bretton woods institutions. What a joke?

Anyway it's to the citizens of every nation to wake up and smell the coffee of the exploitative system. And indeed the people thr world over are beginning to heed the wake up call. I'm most facinated by MENA stirring for this will make the arabs live with jews like brothers & sisters. When this happens the puppet arab leaders addicted to the oil hegemony will be no more. And what will that do to the dollar and the military industrial complex smile
In this decade so much will change, but few can see it.
We're past the tipping point, tables have turned.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Cde Monomotapa
#40 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2011 5:19:57 AM
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hisah wrote:

If indeed they have any constitution, that private Fed bank shouldn't be existing in the first place and with any mandate to print dollars. This is why Andrew Jackson shut it down for the 2nd time in 1800s. This is why I'm no supporter of any political or monetary structure. Too much power given to these institutions that it is hard not tempt individuals to abet covert schemes. Power corrupts, too much power corrupts even more.
If you look at the performance of IMF or World bank since the 70s to date how helpful have they been to 3rd world nations? 3rd world nations have deliberate weak political structures mostly inherited from their colonial masters, meant for exploitation by the same masters who also happen to benefit the most from the so called bretton woods institutions. What a joke?

Anyway it's to the citizens of every nation to wake up and smell the coffee of the exploitative system. And indeed the people thr world over are beginning to heed the wake up call. I'm most facinated by MENA stirring for this will make the arabs live with jews like brothers & sisters. When this happens the puppet arab leaders addicted to the oil hegemony will be no more. And what will that do to the dollar and the military industrial complex smile
In this decade so much will change, but few can see it.
We're past the tipping point, tables have turned.
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I salute you! Spoken like a true neo-revolutionary! I have to commend you a fellow Comrade in this current struggle for ideological and economic freedom!! All protocols observed, U are officially @Cde Hisah in our camp! Afrika oye!!
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