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70 Constituencies reserved for Women????
Jaina
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:33:42 AM
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Though the constitution tried to ensure Gender parity in Public offices, i think there is bound to be ambiguity if the proposal by Hassan is to be implemented.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...-/15avcevz/-/index.html

Points of Concern:

1. What prevents any Man to sue the electoral commission for violation of his rights and discrimination based on gender?.

2. Shouldn't this be considered an abuse of democratic process where some gender is imposed on the electorate?

This is absurd to say the least.

willin2learn
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:39:58 AM
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@Jaina. That's one of the most absurd laws in that constitution.I can guarantee you that the next government will be 'illegal' because there is a high chance the number of elected women won't get to a third.

And whatever happens to freedom of choice?

willin2learn
#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:43:32 AM
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Talk about dictated democracy
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:36:02 AM
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:40:05 AM
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@ Jaina
Are you sure you read the Constitution before voting? (I'm assuming you voted for)
These questions/ rants that keep arising on matters that are clearly spelt out in the Constitution never cease to amaze me.

Btw, in Uganda, In Uganda, 112 out of 375 seats are reserved for women. (34.9%)
Rwanda: women currently occupy 45 out of 80 seats.
in the Chamber of Deputies AND 9 out of 26 (34%) in the Senate. (Highest percentage of women in Parliament in the world).
Tanzania: 36% women.
Kenya: 22/224 (9.8%)

Here's a table: look at the countries at the bottom of the list and the countries at the top of the list (with a few exceptions) and tell me where you want to fall (development wise).
http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/classif.htm

Affirmative action which is used to correct imbalances)has been used in most of these countries (at the top of the list) to correct previous imbalances and ensure that democracy is participatory. Participation by the way is not limited to voting - it extends to having a voice in making decisions which affect everyone's lives.
http://www.ipu.org/wmn-e/classif.htm
McReggae
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:45:44 AM
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In that particular provision, they did not think straight, appointed ni sawa lakini elected, hapo wamenoa!!!!
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Jaina
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:13:16 AM
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@ 4 Sport,

I have nothing against women, but there is no correlation between women in leadership positions and development.

The absurdity with the proposal is obvious, whichever way you look at it. How can it be implemented without infringing on the fundamental freedoms and rights of Men as stipulated in the same constitution?

Favoritism in any form builds mistrust. We are already experiencing situations where the same women fails to apply for positions reserved for them.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:23:00 AM
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All Nairobi Constituencies MUST have women MPs... lol!
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:20:38 PM
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Women Don't (necessarily) Make Better Leaders (by Elisabeth Eaves is the deputy editor of Forbes.com's opinions channel)

...The only reason we don't have many examples of terrible female leaders is that we have had vastly fewer women in charge, period.

... The examples we do have, meanwhile, suggest that autocratic tendencies and bad judgment appear to be distributed along a bell curve for women just as they are for men. Indian Prime Minister Indira Gandhi indulged in a period of dictatorial rule. Benazir Bhutto's femininity didn't make her immune to the nepotism and corruption of Pakistani politics.

...Women do not make categorically better leaders, and it's no favor to them to suggest that they do. By all means, let's elect smart, judicious leaders who happen to be female--but don't expect them to do a better job than the men by reason of estrogen alone

http://www.forbes.com/20...ped-cx_ee_1024eaves.html
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:34:43 PM
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