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#981 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:46:14 PM
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hisah, that link for Argentina's Economic Collapse is great! Thanks a lot.

I know you've watched The Zeitgeist series. What do you think of Peter Joseph's idea of a 'moneyless society'? Doable?
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#982 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:25:00 PM
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kenyainvesting.blogspot.com wrote:
hisah, that link for Argentina's Economic Collapse is great! Thanks a lot.

I know you've watched The Zeitgeist series. What do you think of Peter Joseph's idea of a 'moneyless society'? Doable?


Why do we need money? Do you need it? What if it was to vanish in an instant, would the world stop?

Yes, I've watched that movie and many many documentaries and book about the coming era of no money aka being a wage slave and free energy and DNA medical miracles which permit limbs or organs to grow back even from severe injuries...

All possible if you eliminate the money cartel. But research would need a lot of money. Who said so? What if mother nature was to bill you for breathing or sun basking etc or sailing her oceans... She doesn't... This is the new thinking going forward... No more banksters and politicians...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#983 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:38:40 PM
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Ron Paul decides not to seek another congressional term in 2012, but to go full blast for the presidential seat. One of the few sober politicians left in the U S of A...

http://thefacts.com/arti...-b2df-001cc4c03286.html

If he does clitch it despite his age, I'm sure he's capable of doing what Andrew Jackson did in the 1800's; shutdown the bankster fed bank and bring back the dollar to the gold standard... In one blow that would send shockwaves throughout the cartel ponzinomics model by forcing the international banksters to mark their books to market.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#984 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:20:32 PM
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hisah wrote:
kenyainvesting.blogspot.com wrote:
hisah, that link for Argentina's Economic Collapse is great! Thanks a lot.

I know you've watched The Zeitgeist series. What do you think of Peter Joseph's idea of a 'moneyless society'? Doable?


Why do we need money? Do you need it? What if it was to vanish in an instant, would the world stop?

Yes, I've watched that movie and many many documentaries and book about the coming era of no money aka being a wage slave and fire energy and DNA medical miracles which permit limbs or organs to grow back even from severe injuries...

All possible if you eliminate the money cartel. But research would need a lot of money. Who said so? What if mother nature was to bill you for breathing or sun basking etc or sailing her oceans... She doesn't... This is the new thinking going forward... No more banksters and politicians...


If it does happen, we'll be dead by then.Sad
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#985 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:29:57 PM
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hisah wrote:
Ron Paul decides not to seek another congressional term in 2012, but to go full blast for the presidential seat. One of the few sober politicians let in the U S of A...

http://thefacts.com/arti...-b2df-001cc4c03286.html

If he does clitch it despite his age, I'm sure he's capable of doing what Andrew Jackson did in the 1800's; shutdown the bankster fed bank and bring back the dollar to the gold standard... In one blow that would send shockwaves throughout the cartel ponzinomics model by forcing the international banksters to mark their books to market.


You don't like Obama much, I suppose thenSad
How would you rate his performance solely on the economy and not any other issue?
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#986 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:56:04 PM
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Why behold politicians like gods? Why behold money masters? Why behold anyone or society institutions that supresses the will of mankind?

I have zero respect for any of the above and I offer no apologies for the same.

I have once before given an analogy to being a visitor from another world that is interested with how our world system works i.e. politics & finance. Would you have a nice report when you see how the citizens are taken advantage of?

All this will change in a generation and you'll be around to witness it. Watch middle east smile
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#987 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:27:43 AM
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BYD 1H profit to tumble 95%... Some investor worshipped like a god called W. Buffet owns this thing. The ching economy is contracting... Japan's supply chain issues after the nasty quake are being felt.

http://www.bloomberg.com...it-may-decline-95-.html

Meanwhile the German 2yr note yield sinks below ECB's interest rate (1.5%)... Getting liquidity tight in eurozone...

Cisco to layoff 10000 as profits shrink starting Aug 2011.

Anybody know Zhu Min? Madam Christine the IMF MD proposes the ching to be deputy MD. Wow! A ching in IMF and from the PBoC to boot... Sweeping changes definitely coming up in the money game... smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DtOWsSRzSCmM
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#988 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:19:27 AM
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Soros plan B for Europe?

In case the EU leaders didn’t know it, Mr. Soros is here to let them know it’s time for the eurozone to be “ringfenced,” i.e. insure the core remains stable despite the fact it may be too late for some countries on the periphery. “Gee ... thank you, Captain Obvious!” is what I would assume the response from European finance ministers might be to those comments.

Of course this ring-fencing would require more taxpayer money with Germany and Finland and Netherlands making it more costly for them to borrow in the open market thanks to the necessity of a common European bond market. This of course also would require a euro wide Treasury as in the U.S.

But seriously, assuming anyone can really take these politicos seriously, the question is: Is it too late? Have the taxpayers who are footing these bailout bills, and will suffer from any form of transfer union, had enough already?

I would suspect that many taxpayers wish they were all Brits now, because of the fact that the UK is part of the EU but is not tied to the currency union. They are free from the single currency straight jacket and despite the problems in the UK, there is some flexibility left instead of subsidy upon subsidy upon subsidy to others whose ability to produce wealth is questionable given said straight jacket. The UK controls its own monetary policy. If European citizens are tired of laboring under effective German monetary policy, just wait till they get a look at transfer union, would be my guess.

I argue that a country like Switzerland, no EU membership and its own currency and monetary policy is doing okay with exports to the eurozone. The scare tactic of disaster if anyone leaves the Union doesn’t seem to hold up empirically. A mess it will be, but a country’s competitiveness against its competitors is what creates wealth; a condition badly lacking in the current union. Maybe more control of the union by Germany will do the trick?

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#989 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:39:20 AM
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While Putin calls Bernanke a hooligan. While I call them banksters.

http://www.dailypaul.com...gans-for-printing-money

@Ceinz - Soros is a currency shark. Eurozone had better be careful with his proposals.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#990 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:39:54 AM
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Chinese GDP grows @ 9.5% Q on Q in Q2 giving a lift to Asian bourses this morning. I am amazed at how fast these guys are able to churn out their stats. I am just seeing Kenya B.o.P statistics for Jan 2011 being reported now!
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#991 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:53:38 AM
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hisah wrote:

@Ceinz - Soros is a currency shark. Eurozone had better be careful with his proposals.


I can't agree more.
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#992 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:55:39 AM
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Following yesterday’s Dollar strength across the board and major Euro weakness, markets started to recover as investors recovered earlier losses but news of Moody’s downgrading Ireland to Junk added further pressure on the currency and health of the EU region as the nation joins Greece and Portugal on junk rating with Moody’s citing probability that Ireland will need additional official financing and for investors to share in losses before it can return to the private market to borrow with the outlook set to negative.

FOMC minutes of the meeting showed policy makers were divided on whether additional monetary stimulus will be needed if the outlook for the economy remains weak. There are speculations of introducing QE3 which could further weaken the Dollar against the Euro and the Yen.

news.ac-makets.com
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#993 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:06:30 PM
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hisah wrote:
While Putin calls Bernanke a hooligan. While I call them banksters.

http://www.dailypaul.com...gans-for-printing-money


printing money by central banks is pure theft, imagine cbk printing billions and using the money to buy hard propery, ur land or something. Its like an exchange of something for nothing. They say cash in bank earns as square root of all idiots, moral of the story store ur wealth in hard form, not paper.
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#994 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:13:25 PM
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Dollar is lower after Bernanke said that the Fed was ready to respond to economic weakness.
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#995 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:24:19 PM
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BERNANKE SAYS ECONOMY WARRANTS LOW RATES FOR `EXTENDED PERIOD'
BERNANKE PREDICTS UNEMPLOYMENT WILL DECLINE `ONLY GRADUALLY'
BERNANKE SAYS PACE OF RECOVERY WILL PICK UP IN COMING QUARTERS
BERNANKE SAYS FED COULD ALSO EASE BY BUYING MORE SECURITIES
BERNANKE SAYS `MOST OF RECENT' RISE IN INFLATION LIKELY PASSING
Bernanke out with dovish comments; likely bullish for risk sentiment
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#996 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:09:50 PM
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Ceinz wrote:
BERNANKE SAYS ECONOMY WARRANTS LOW RATES FOR `EXTENDED PERIOD'
BERNANKE PREDICTS UNEMPLOYMENT WILL DECLINE `ONLY GRADUALLY'
BERNANKE SAYS PACE OF RECOVERY WILL PICK UP IN COMING QUARTERS
BERNANKE SAYS FED COULD ALSO EASE BY BUYING MORE SECURITIES
BERNANKE SAYS `MOST OF RECENT' RISE IN INFLATION LIKELY PASSING
Bernanke out with dovish comments; likely bullish for risk sentiment


And the markets graciously buy The Bernank put...

July 22 - Congress to decide the debt ceiling fate...

Markets forget very fast, don't they...

Italy, Belgium, Greece, Japan and US in that order...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#997 Posted : Wednesday, July 13, 2011 8:12:59 PM
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Ceinz wrote:
hisah wrote:
While Putin calls Bernanke a hooligan. While I call them banksters.

http://www.dailypaul.com...gans-for-printing-money


printing money by central banks is pure theft, imagine cbk printing billions and using the money to buy hard propery, ur land or something. Its like an exchange of something for nothing. They say cash in bank earns as square root of all idiots, moral of the story store ur wealth in hard form, not paper.


So where does our CBK get its money from? Hard assets?

They print it too thru bonds out of nothing... What is the Ksh backed with...?

No currency in the world is currently backed by anything thus the term fiat currency. It is all an illusion...Not talking

At least the Swiss are trying to create a gold backed Franc.

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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#998 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:15:38 AM
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So what's happening overnight, but early morning here in asia... Well Moodys now puts US AAA rating up next for downgrade. Kisa na maana, that debt ceiling MUST be raised. If congress wont play ball, banksters will unleash the sell missile across board...
That sees the US stocks & dollar tank across board. With all the action packed moves since July 5th, I've forgotten to sleep!

Gold is now at all time highs Vs the dollar, euro & pound. Is gold money smile

http://online.wsj.com/ar...CO-20110713-715131.html
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ceinz
#999 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 4:26:18 AM
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hisah wrote:
With all the action packed moves since July 5th, I've forgotten to sleep!

Gold is now at all time highs Vs the dollar, euro & pound. Is gold money smile



Another nocturnal being, I told ur 'a different ilk', btw, was that Asia I heard, kwani umekuwa Jim Rogers-Singapore.smile
Kudos on ur gold trade.
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hisah
#1000 Posted : Thursday, July 14, 2011 5:04:15 AM
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Ceinz wrote:
hisah wrote:
With all the action packed moves since July 5th, I've forgotten to sleep!

Gold is now at all time highs Vs the dollar, euro & pound. Is gold money smile



Another nocturnal being, I told ur 'a different ilk', btw, was that Asia I heard, kwani umekuwa Jim Rogers-Singapore.smile
Kudos on ur gold trade.

Malaysia... Btw the citizens were out protesting on Monday...
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