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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/13/2011 Posts: 63 Location: njokishk
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@milken, why he doesn't take a walk in customers that seems to be a bit funny. I have heard Doctor Plaza Kenyatta, they have good pediatrician, any one with one in mind?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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For Sport wrote:ocampo wrote:
Pole junior.
Pneumonia is curable.
Probably many are not aware but augmentin has been banned in many countries because it contains di-isodecyl phthalate which is used in the manufacture of plastics.
Its not bad to prescribe antibiotics, however many docs and majority are para graduates use that as an easy avenue to reduce the severity of sickness.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know. And I'm pretty sure I've used it in the past couple of months. Zinnat was banned too. it is your responsibility as a parent to protect your child from doctors who dont do their research on the medicines to prescribe.... granted you cant know all of them but if you get info like in wazua or through the emails that go round with warnings, then you should use it. You may blame the doctor for giving the kid weak antibiotics but (though stand to be collected), it is better than your kid getting used to the very strong antibiotics for small ailments... may be in your case, their only mistake is that they did not follow up on the child's response to the weak antibiotics and prescribe the stronger ones.... but for the initial instance, it is best the child is put on weak antibiotics so that the body is also able to help in fighting the diseases. otherwise, the body soldiers become lazy and rely on a dose of antibiotics everytime an attack occurs. Actually, the reason i moved from the first pediatrician was because every time i showed up with wendzlet suffering from a cough, the doc would prescribe strong antibiotics.... and i knew it was not healthy to literally 'feed' the child with such strong medicines.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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My 2 year daughter was also getting colds persistently and i hated having to give her drugs particularly antibiotics every so often. Try the preventive route and give her vitamins every day. She's on seven seas cod liver oil and does not fall sick as often as she used to
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Rank: User Joined: 8/6/2010 Posts: 594
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njokishk wrote:@milken, why he doesn't take a walk in customers that seems to be a bit funny. I have heard Doctor Plaza Kenyatta, they have good pediatrician, any one with one in mind? This one is not in my mind but in his office at the plaza. He is called Prof. Wafula. The best Pediatrician alive today in Kenya but friendly on the pocket, 1500/=  "One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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@Wendz and others. To say that augumentin is banned is really stretching facts. A batch of augumentin was recalled in Taiwan over concerns that it contained some chemical used in plastics. Surely this does not mean that all augumentin is banned worldwide. It's like saying that Toyota cars are banned because there has been some recalls of some faulty cars. My friend Mr. Google cannot find the Zinnat ban so please someone share a link. That said, @Wendz is right about starting off with weaker antibiotics so that the body does not form resistance. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/9/2007 Posts: 219
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Wendz wrote:For Sport wrote:ocampo wrote:
Pole junior.
Pneumonia is curable.
Probably many are not aware but augmentin has been banned in many countries because it contains di-isodecyl phthalate which is used in the manufacture of plastics.
Its not bad to prescribe antibiotics, however many docs and majority are para graduates use that as an easy avenue to reduce the severity of sickness.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know. And I'm pretty sure I've used it in the past couple of months. Zinnat was banned too. it is your responsibility as a parent to protect your child from doctors who dont do their research on the medicines to prescribe.... granted you cant know all of them but if you get info like in wazua or through the emails that go round with warnings, then you should use it. You may blame the doctor for giving the kid weak antibiotics but (though stand to be collected), it is better than your kid getting used to the very strong antibiotics for small ailments... may be in your case, their only mistake is that they did not follow up on the child's response to the weak antibiotics and prescribe the stronger ones.... but for the initial instance, it is best the child is put on weak antibiotics so that the body is also able to help in fighting the diseases. otherwise, the body soldiers become lazy and rely on a dose of antibiotics everytime an attack occurs. Actually, the reason i moved from the first pediatrician was because every time i showed up with wendzlet suffering from a cough, the doc would prescribe strong antibiotics.... and i knew it was not healthy to literally 'feed' the child with such strong medicines. I'm shocked.Last month my son had a fever.I rushed him to Getrudes and after Lab test they confirmed he had a throat Infection. They prescribed Zinnat to him.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/9/2007 Posts: 219
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Insurgent wrote:njokishk wrote:@milken, why he doesn't take a walk in customers that seems to be a bit funny. I have heard Doctor Plaza Kenyatta, they have good pediatrician, any one with one in mind? This one is not in my mind but in his office at the plaza. He is called Prof. Wafula. The best Pediatrician alive today in Kenya but friendly on the pocket, 1500/= Is he the guy who usually comes on "Doctors on call" on Family TV?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/3/2011 Posts: 129 Location: Nairobi
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milken wrote:njokishk wrote:Kindly who knows a good pediatrician who can i can consult. I normally take mine to Dr EC Kung'u @ Nbi Hospital. If interested, I can introduce you. (You have to be introduced; he does not take walk in customers) Dr. Kung'u is not taking on new patients... unfortunately. He is solid i tell you (and from experience).
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/25/2008 Posts: 192 Location: Nairobi
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njokishk wrote:@milken, why he doesn't take a walk in customers that seems to be a bit funny. I have heard Doctor Plaza Kenyatta, they have good pediatrician, any one with one in mind? Honestly I do not know. Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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McReggae wrote:Yaani Getrudes is this bad, like everybody who has visited has a complaint to make!!!! Wazua can bring down an organization... 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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I do not really know where you people are getting information on banned products. As @Robinhood said,its the Taiwan batch that contained harmful products of di-isodecyl phthalate but not whole range of augmentin. Augmentin is the original preparation of amoxycillin and clavulanic acid and neither of the two ingredients contain di-isodecyl phthalate.Augmentin and its generic ie amoklavin,julmentin,clavam,enhancin etc is very safe and very potent in the treatment of upper respiratory tract infections including pneumonia.Actually,its one of the best and 1st line for pneumonia related cases. Zinnat is the original of cefuroxime axetil,a 2nd generation cephalosporin. Again,this product is very safe and has not been banned anywhere.Its potency in urinary tract infections and to some extent URTI and LRTI makes it a good product to eliminate those bacteria in the rate you have never seen. Therefore,Zinnat and its generics ie proximexa,Zamur,Cefuzime etc is very safe !! I hope this puts matter to rest.I would like to reiterate that the two products are very safe and potent/effective in eliminating those bacteria. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2008 Posts: 152
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@Njoki & Ray,
Dr.Wafula is the one who comes on that TV programme (recently he appeared talking about T.B)and i can tell you he is one of the best. He is normally based at Aga khan Hospital.
I did know about this story of Zinnat & Augmentin being banned! I wonder what is the long term damage considering its still being used (and healing).
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Burning Spear wrote:I do not really know where you people are getting information on banned products.
As @Robinhood said,its the Taiwan batch that contained harmful products of di-isodecyl phthalate but not whole range of augmentin.
Augmentin is the original preparation of amoxycillin and clavulanic acid and neither of the two ingredients contain di-isodecyl phthalate.Augmentin and its generic ie amoklavin,julmentin,clavam,enhancin etc is very safe and very potent in the treatment of upper respiratory tract infections including pneumonia.Actually,its one of the best and 1st line for pneumonia related cases.
Zinnat is the original of cefuroxime axetil,a 2nd generation cephalosporin.
Again,this product is very safe and has not been banned anywhere.Its potency in urinary tract infections and to some extent URTI and LRTI makes it a good product to eliminate those bacteria in the rate you have never seen.
Therefore,Zinnat and its generics ie proximexa,Zamur,Cefuzime etc is very safe !!
I hope this puts matter to rest.I would like to reiterate that the two products are very safe and potent/effective in eliminating those bacteria. @burning, thanks for clearing that up. I understand that these antibiotics have different strengths depending on the severity of the disease. What is the recommended dosage in the initial stages of an infection? The doctors i've seen usually prescribe the 250mg syrup for my 2 year old daughter for 5 days whenever she gets a throat infection yet i know there's the 125mg dose. How strong is too strong?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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Burning Spear wrote:I do not really know where you people are getting information on banned products.
As @Robinhood said,its the Taiwan batch that contained harmful products of di-isodecyl phthalate but not whole range of augmentin.
Augmentin is the original preparation of amoxycillin and clavulanic acid and neither of the two ingredients contain di-isodecyl phthalate.Augmentin and its generic ie amoklavin,julmentin,clavam,enhancin etc is very safe and very potent in the treatment of upper respiratory tract infections including pneumonia.Actually,its one of the best and 1st line for pneumonia related cases.
Zinnat is the original of cefuroxime axetil,a 2nd generation cephalosporin.
Again,this product is very safe and has not been banned anywhere.Its potency in urinary tract infections and to some extent URTI and LRTI makes it a good product to eliminate those bacteria in the rate you have never seen.
Therefore,Zinnat and its generics ie proximexa,Zamur,Cefuzime etc is very safe !!
I hope this puts matter to rest.I would like to reiterate that the two products are very safe and potent/effective in eliminating those bacteria. Its good to have a doc or a real  pharmacist in the house!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Burning Spear wrote:I do not really know where you people are getting information on banned products.
As @Robinhood said,its the Taiwan batch that contained harmful products of di-isodecyl phthalate but not whole range of augmentin.
Augmentin is the original preparation of amoxycillin and clavulanic acid and neither of the two ingredients contain di-isodecyl phthalate.Augmentin and its generic ie amoklavin,julmentin,clavam,enhancin etc is very safe and very potent in the treatment of upper respiratory tract infections including pneumonia.Actually,its one of the best and 1st line for pneumonia related cases.
Zinnat is the original of cefuroxime axetil,a 2nd generation cephalosporin.
Again,this product is very safe and has not been banned anywhere.Its potency in urinary tract infections and to some extent URTI and LRTI makes it a good product to eliminate those bacteria in the rate you have never seen.
Therefore,Zinnat and its generics ie proximexa,Zamur,Cefuzime etc is very safe !!
I hope this puts matter to rest.I would like to reiterate that the two products are very safe and potent/effective in eliminating those bacteria. Ahsante daktari!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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Took my son there for a rotavirus treatment costed me an arm,I was given the same prescription which costed me a fraction in a catholic dispensary I had dismissed as incompetent. One thing I learnt is take your kid to a mission hospital or a good govt hospital these private hospitals are expensive and offer in some instances substandard services. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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Shak wrote:Burning Spear wrote:I do not really know where you people are getting information on banned products.
As @Robinhood said,its the Taiwan batch that contained harmful products of di-isodecyl phthalate but not whole range of augmentin.
Augmentin is the original preparation of amoxycillin and clavulanic acid and neither of the two ingredients contain di-isodecyl phthalate.Augmentin and its generic ie amoklavin,julmentin,clavam,enhancin etc is very safe and very potent in the treatment of upper respiratory tract infections including pneumonia.Actually,its one of the best and 1st line for pneumonia related cases.
Zinnat is the original of cefuroxime axetil,a 2nd generation cephalosporin.
Again,this product is very safe and has not been banned anywhere.Its potency in urinary tract infections and to some extent URTI and LRTI makes it a good product to eliminate those bacteria in the rate you have never seen.
Therefore,Zinnat and its generics ie proximexa,Zamur,Cefuzime etc is very safe !!
I hope this puts matter to rest.I would like to reiterate that the two products are very safe and potent/effective in eliminating those bacteria. @burning, thanks for clearing that up. I understand that these antibiotics have different strengths depending on the severity of the disease. What is the recommended dosage in the initial stages of an infection? The doctors i've seen usually prescribe the 250mg syrup for my 2 year old daughter for 5 days whenever she gets a throat infection yet i know there's the 125mg dose. How strong is too strong? The dosage depends on body weight and condition being treated rather than the age in children. The usual dose is 125mg twice daily or 10mg/kg twice daily to a maximum of 250mg daily for children less than 2 years.For those 2 years and above,the dosage increases to 250mg twice daily or 15mg/kg twice daily to a maximum of 500mg daily. This works well for otitis media,mild to moderate LRTI (Lower respiratory tract infections)and even severe cases of LRTI and if pneumonia is suspected. Therefore,the prescription to your kid was so much in order and was the correct dosage. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/16/2009 Posts: 257
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@ selah which catholic dispensary?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/9/2007 Posts: 219
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Burning Spear wrote:I do not really know where you people are getting information on banned products.
As @Robinhood said,its the Taiwan batch that contained harmful products of di-isodecyl phthalate but not whole range of augmentin.
Augmentin is the original preparation of amoxycillin and clavulanic acid and neither of the two ingredients contain di-isodecyl phthalate.Augmentin and its generic ie amoklavin,julmentin,clavam,enhancin etc is very safe and very potent in the treatment of upper respiratory tract infections including pneumonia.Actually,its one of the best and 1st line for pneumonia related cases.
Zinnat is the original of cefuroxime axetil,a 2nd generation cephalosporin.
Again,this product is very safe and has not been banned anywhere.Its potency in urinary tract infections and to some extent URTI and LRTI makes it a good product to eliminate those bacteria in the rate you have never seen.
Therefore,Zinnat and its generics ie proximexa,Zamur,Cefuzime etc is very safe !!
I hope this puts matter to rest.I would like to reiterate that the two products are very safe and potent/effective in eliminating those bacteria. Thanks for the Clarification or should i call it FREE consultation. Ahsante sana.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/11/2009 Posts: 302
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About paedriatic issues, I would advise that whichever hospital you go to, have your own doctor? Can you imagine taking your car to a different machanic evry time it coughs?
Now I'm not trying to compare your son (s) or daughter (s) to some piece of metal with rubber rollers.
The satellite clinics of some of these "highly ranked" hospitals are actually no go zones for seasoned parents, especially the one at Madaraka. You will almost always only find rookies (new parents) taking their kids to this place.
Other very useful options
1.Have a paeditrician of your own (I know this sound elitist but its your choice) either at Doctors plazas (be it KNH, AKUN or NBI). I recall that me and my siblings were seen by the same doctor till age 22 and she knew each one us beyond just "where does it hurt?".
2.Try some mission hospitals like St. Mary's, Tenwek, Mukumu, Fatima or Kijabe -lets not assume everyone lives in Nairobi. I know people who take time of to drive or bus westwards to Kijabe to take their children to hospital (Most insurance companies will however not pay if you seek services from these hospitals, despite the fact that they arev very affordable to most).
3 The AKUN has a dedicated paeditrician wing complete with its own reception. I have found the attention given at this wing quite good all the times I have taken my dear little destroyer there.
All else is luck and please don't use what you google to antagonise doctors. It pays to be calm and ask what every procedure or drug is meant to respond to..Do it with respect, the doctors will most likely oblige.
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