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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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After a few years away from home, I came back for a visit and like a new comer, I had to hook up with old friends for good times, little did I know that in Kenya when you are hunging out with women, no matter who proposed for the drink or the meal, the man has to pay!Excuse me, the last time I was in kenya, my parent was holding my hand and footing the bill since I had no money on my name so didn't really know I was suppose to be paying every little thing, come on people! I looked around the pub and all the women were busy ordering and ordering and from the look of the men's faces, they were busy adding and subtracting, BS who started this? Men we need to stop these BS, unless you said you'll pay, if a woman make an order, she has to pay, screw this!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/2/2010 Posts: 563 Location: Embakasi
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Hehe this is why I always tell the waiter to only put what I personally order on a seperate bill. Unless I offer to buy a round I generally just pay for my own drinks. In a place where thought is abandoned, freedom can become a curse.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Drunkard wrote:After a few years away from home, I came back for a visit and like a new comer, I had to hook up with old friends for good times, little did I know that in Kenya when you are hunging out with women, no matter who proposed for the drink or the meal, the man has to pay!Excuse me, the last time I was in kenya, my parent was holding my hand and footing the bill since I had no money on my name so didn't really know I was suppose to be paying every little thing, come on people! I looked around the pub and all the women were busy ordering and ordering and from the look of the men's faces, they were busy adding and subtracting, BS who started this? Men we need to stop these BS, unless you said you'll pay, if a woman make an order, she has to pay, screw this! You too! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2010 Posts: 906 Location: Nairobi
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Drunkard, don't shy away from your responsibilities. Kama hauna pesa hiyo siku, just postpone the date.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/4/2007 Posts: 656
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wengine wetu tuko na pesa n we gladly pay those bills. Kama huna pesa, stay at home or avoid company when out The way I am
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@drunkard has a point. Most women will invite you for a date or a series of dates and will contribute zero towards the bills.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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I agree with @drunkard.We should go the Dutch way,everyone for him or herself...affirmative action,do me I do u.Pap! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/4/2008 Posts: 394
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@ Drunkard, you sound really mature, wish all women will behave like you and stop the parasitism tendencies. You go out with a workmate who earns more than you and she expects you to foot all the bills, pay for her taxi home etc. Doors of opportunity don't just open , they have to be unlocked & it's up to you to turn the knob.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Whoever invites the other for a date should pay....lakini hapa kwetu, mambo ni tofauti, pole @drunkard. @Impunity, Avalon iliendaje with the 3 chics? ulilipa?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/6/2010 Posts: 594
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Drunkard wrote:After a few years away from home, I came back for a visit and like a new comer, I had to hook up with old friends for good times, little did I know that in Kenya when you are hunging out with women, no matter who proposed for the drink or the meal, the man has to pay!Excuse me, the last time I was in kenya, my parent was holding my hand and footing the bill since I had no money on my name so didn't really know I was suppose to be paying every little thing, come on people! I looked around the pub and all the women were busy ordering and ordering and from the look of the men's faces, they were busy adding and subtracting, BS who started this? Men we need to stop these BS, unless you said you'll pay, if a woman make an order, she has to pay, screw this! Why would you go out with the girl in the first place? Is it not hoping that one day, she will allow you to land your airbus on her airport without paying? This is Africa. YOu do it the African way or go back from where you came from. By the way, are you black or pink? If black, respect your culture. Only take out a girl you hope to one day enjoy the fruits of your labour. Or your argument is you share the landing rights without authority?  "One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Drunkard wrote:After a few years away from home, I came back for a visit and like a new comer, I had to hook up with old friends for good times, little did I know that in Kenya when you are hunging out with women, no matter who proposed for the drink or the meal, the man has to pay!Excuse me, the last time I was in kenya, my parent was holding my hand and footing the bill since I had no money on my name so didn't really know I was suppose to be paying every little thing, come on people! I looked around the pub and all the women were busy ordering and ordering and from the look of the men's faces, they were busy adding and subtracting, BS who started this? Men we need to stop these BS, unless you said you'll pay, if a woman make an order, she has to pay, screw this! @Drunkard, I beg to differ: Some of these habits are part of what makes us "Kenyans". Do we need to copy whatever others do out there? Do we need to do things the way they do them "Dutch way"? This is a man's world and dependency is the order of the day. Plus landing rights have to be paid for indirectly.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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@drunkard I'm with you on this one, as you said, hook up with 'old friends' - plural, so all these date stories being banded around are misplaced. If these friends are college students or I called them and said I'm buying fine - I'd pay otherwise throwing one or two rounds for ol times should suffice not footing amorphous bills. HAPANA! easier with the working class, don't be ambiguous.If the chics feel your vibe this won't be an issue. That is from experience. Usidanganywe, let the omeras pay  A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2010 Posts: 939 Location: Nai
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Rahatupu wrote:Drunkard wrote:After a few years away from home, I came back for a visit and like a new comer, I had to hook up with old friends for good times, little did I know that in Kenya when you are hunging out with women, no matter who proposed for the drink or the meal, the man has to pay!Excuse me, the last time I was in kenya, my parent was holding my hand and footing the bill since I had no money on my name so didn't really know I was suppose to be paying every little thing, come on people! I looked around the pub and all the women were busy ordering and ordering and from the look of the men's faces, they were busy adding and subtracting, BS who started this? Men we need to stop these BS, unless you said you'll pay, if a woman make an order, she has to pay, screw this! @Drunkard, I beg to differ: Some of these habits are part of what makes us "Kenyans". Do we need to copy whatever others do out there? Do we need to do things the way they do them "Dutch way"? This is a man's world and dependency is the order of the day. Plus landing rights have to be paid for indirectly. what is kenyan about spending your money recklessly on "friends" or women in the name of not copying what others do out there. you see this is the reason kenyan women say kenyan men think with their fly or simply put they are idiots you spend money on them and you don't get nuthing. You don't prove how much of a man you are by being stupid with your money.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/9/2010 Posts: 894 Location: Nairobi
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Insurgent wrote:Drunkard wrote:After a few years away from home, I came back for a visit and like a new comer, I had to hook up with old friends for good times, little did I know that in Kenya when you are hunging out with women, no matter who proposed for the drink or the meal, the man has to pay!Excuse me, the last time I was in kenya, my parent was holding my hand and footing the bill since I had no money on my name so didn't really know I was suppose to be paying every little thing, come on people! I looked around the pub and all the women were busy ordering and ordering and from the look of the men's faces, they were busy adding and subtracting, BS who started this? Men we need to stop these BS, unless you said you'll pay, if a woman make an order, she has to pay, screw this! Why would you go out with the girl in the first place? Is it not hoping that one day, she will allow you to land your airbus on her airport without paying? This is Africa. YOu do it the African way or go back from where you came from. By the way, are you black or pink? If black, respect your culture. Only take out a girl you hope to one day enjoy the fruits of your labour. Or your argument is you share the landing rights without authority? if she pays the bill and then you land that will be a double loss lol Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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My worst experience. A sales lady looking for business where I work and have passable influence in the contract award invites me for a meal at a trendy joint in the leafy suburbs. She then pushes the bill to me after gorging herself. Needless to say she lost my custom.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2010 Posts: 335 Location: Nairobi
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Let me tell you what I do: When I take a woman out, I pay... if she brings her broke friends kill the date early... When I go out with a friend who is short, I lend him cash or pay for him depending on my mood/my cashflow/our relationship... When I go out in a large group, I try to keep a clear head. Clear your bills every hour or so... or better yet pay as you order so that guys dont expect you to chip in at the end. Another thing that happens often is that people order for cocktails and expensive whiskies then you end up splitting the total amount evenly after u've had 5 tuskers!!!! Btw, Drunkard, were there any college girlfriends? Did u get any? "I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 745
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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@nostoppingthis,we decided to imbibe at Crown Plaza Babalus instead.They were monied and I only paid for bottled water if I'm not wrong....But they had clocked mileage I didnt bother to katia any of them. I think they behaved maturely and I urge all Kenyan ladies to embrace this styro. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/6/2010 Posts: 594
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Welcome back brav, only landing rights issues can pop you out of the underworld. You never came to Alfajiri, any excuses? "One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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@Mlevi
...Should not assume things...make things clear from the start...this is not the West and we dont assume.
...There are nice 'Eves'out there who will foot the bill again and again.
...Depends on who you are hanging out with... Kama ulienda kuokota takataka ya K-street usitulee...You got what you went for...
...Again the issue of how we have been socialised matters...Men have always paid bills in Kenya!!! Ati ukialikwa for a drink huko west unaenda ukijibebea changaa yako! Some of this BS from the west makes me want to chance a fart when I have diarrhoea!!!
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