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Wrestling; real or entertainment
Shak
#1 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 4:44:19 PM
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How many people think that the wrestling shows on tv are real and not just acting? I can't believe i got into a heated debate with my brother in law who's kindu 30 years old and he believes that the fights are real. I thought only young kids believe this. Are there other grown men and women who actually think the same way?
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#2 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 4:47:12 PM
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Last time I checked using google was free, advice your brother if he is internet savy!!!!!
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#3 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 4:55:18 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Last time I checked using google was free, advice your brother if he is internet savy!!!!!

wengine hawajui google!
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#4 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 5:21:38 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Last time I checked using google was free, advice your brother if he is internet savy!!!!!

wengine hawajui google!


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#5 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 5:23:48 PM
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Wrestling is what you would call a performance sport. It's more of theatre than sport. Is it real? Well depends, they will wrestle alright, but the props they use are never meant to incur fatalities. They use a script to make it interesting and also what you call Kayfabe. (Google it). The wrestlers are highly trained professionals who use mock combat and catch wrestling. They are stunt men as well and reality is emphasized by camera angles. But they do also get hurt as well. Any stunt man can attest to that.
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#6 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 5:25:04 PM
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#7 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 6:05:49 PM
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Shak wrote:
How many people think that the wrestling shows on tv are real and not just acting? I can't believe i got into a heated debate with my brother in law who's kindu 30 years old and he believes that the fights are real. I thought only young kids believe this. Are there other grown men and women who actually think the same way?


First note that to some people here, 30yr olds are young people.

2nd follow the advice above to educate him.

3rd educate yourself on how to avoid such debates; I don't want to imagine the time you lost for swallowing a few more summits in that useless debate!!

Lastly it doesn't matter who was right coz that debate could have not benefited anyone, whatever the outcome; still time lost!! shit!! am also wasting more time here!!
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#8 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 6:28:08 PM
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@king, you're quite right. By the time i was through with that debate i felt so drained and the worst part was that i was unable to convince him othewise. I happen to be on leave and he came over to visit and brought the topic up at some point. I'll think twice next time before engaging in pointless arguments. Indeed i could have done with a few summits at that point coz man, i almost got worked up in disbelief
masukuma
#9 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 10:05:23 PM
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@shak, usijali atajua tu...it takes time to accept - i accepted while in High school many years ago - I did not want to believe it... but the reality is that wrestling is ENTERTAINMENT, specially choreographed entertainment....anyone who believes otherwise is in denial...notice the drama the plotting before cameras (in private like a soap opera) pleaase... yani people don't look closely? all those moves are like poetry... they have rhythm. p.s. the 'DDT' is no longer as 'powerful' as when Jake 'the snake' roberts executed it. the 'power bomb' is no longer as lethal as when Sid Justice executed it..
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Shak
#10 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 11:20:04 PM
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@masukuma, all you have said is true without a doubt. I just thought that that's the kind of conversation you would hold with your twelve year old nephew and not a 30 YEAR OLD MAN!!!
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#11 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 11:47:02 PM
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There are some categories of entertainment in which the audience just prefer the illusion of reality be maintained, despite clear evidence that it would be unsustainable to be real. Examples are:

1. Pro Wrestling
2. Reality TV
3. Porn

All fall under acting, with special effects, editing and everything, but people would just rather believe that the actors are being natural, and feel betrayed when the opposite is revealed.
Jus Blazin
#12 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2011 10:31:55 AM
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@KenyanLyrics, porn is acting? So ninio ni special effects? pine tree, airport na yoghurt?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2011 1:54:45 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
Wrestling is what you would call a performance sport. It's more of theatre than sport. Is it real? Well depends, they will wrestle alright, but the props they use are never meant to incur fatalities. They use a script to make it interesting and also what you call Kayfabe. (Google it). The wrestlers are highly trained professionals who use mock combat and catch wrestling. They are stunt men as well and reality is emphasized by camera angles. But they do also get hurt as well. Any stunt man can attest to that.



true that!!

I suggest BOXING if you want the real deal.......
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#14 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2011 2:16:35 PM
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masukuma
#15 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2011 2:50:37 PM
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I reasoned out that wrestling is choreographed when I realised that people in Boxing take like 6 months to recover before they are fit for the next match but wrestlers show up the following week after a "beating". they rarely throw punches but use the arm to hit the other guy...some of those "moves" would do no thing to a well built guy. if you can survive a power bomb or suplex there is no reason to get "dazzed" by the "attitude adjustment" by john cena or that funny 619 move by Ray mysterio....
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#16 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2011 5:02:43 PM
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#17 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:18:45 AM
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#18 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:05:00 AM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
@KenyanLyrics, porn is acting? So ninio ni special effects? pine tree, airport na yoghurt?


Aiiiii....Porn is acting?
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masukuma
#19 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:23:31 PM
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if it was "real" people would be learning the deadly moves of others, not keeping to their own signature "finisher" moves they would execute them as soon as possible...
have you ever asked yourself why there are no championship belt changes in "kawaida" matches? only in big "pay-per-view" matches do titles change hands. in kawaida matches u can only beat the champ in a non-title match or a disqualification.
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KenyanLyrics
#20 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:31:41 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
@KenyanLyrics, porn is acting? So ninio ni special effects? pine tree, airport na yoghurt?


Aiiiii....Porn is acting?

Yes Njung'e, it's acting. Kwani you thought those are people who have courted each other, only to whip out a camera at the moment of truth? Laughing out loudly
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