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BRITAK IPO: The Money Maker
mukiha
#261 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:43:51 AM
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Hunderwear wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
I here the HF & EBL holdings r out the IPO...So what other lucrative investments do these pps have?

=They are just running away from the future they know its bleak for them politically.How else do you explain the sell off:Britak,Trancentury,reduction in Eqty bank and the like.To conceal their motive in Britak IPO they have disguised it as raising funds expansion but look at the price set its enough to recoup their investment with a good return.Its all an exit strategy!


How do they exit without selling the shares they own?

Remember, the issuer is BRITAK, not one of the existing shareholders. All the proceeds will go to the company.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
selah
#262 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:04:12 AM
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If all the shares are taken

EPS =1.26
DPS =0.09
PE = 6.9
While the proceeds will be invested as follows amounts in MN

Regional expansion 1,000
Kenyan market 1,280
Property development 2,500
Redemption of debt 750
Expenses of the Offer 320

Total 5,850

The principal shareholders are not allowed to offload their shares until 2yrs are up.

http://mobile.businessda...1/-/33xt1o/-/index.html

So this means 650MN shares out 2.15B shares will be active in the stock exchange for the next two yrs.

I think the possibility of the share price rising are quite High in these two yrs,but long term it will be tricky,and the reason for the rising will most obviously be because of speculation since 2010 seems the best yrs ever for the company.

On PE it seem fair at around 7

E&OE



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SAC Cohen
#263 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:39:33 AM
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selah wrote:
If all the shares are taken

EPS =1.26
DPS =0.09
PE = 6.9
While the proceeds will be invested as follows amounts in MN

Regional expansion 1,000
Kenyan market 1,280
Property development 2,500
Redemption of debt 750
Expenses of the Offer 320

Total 5,850

The principal shareholders are not allowed to offload their shares until 2yrs are up.

http://mobile.businessda...1/-/33xt1o/-/index.html

So this means 650MN shares out 2.15B shares will be active in the stock exchange for the next two yrs.
@selah,
do have the average EPS for the last 5 years?
I think the possibility of the share price rising are quite High in these two yrs,but long term it will be tricky,and the reason for the rising will most obviously be because of speculation since 2010 seems the best yrs ever for the company.

On PE it seem fair at around 7

E&OE





@selah
do you have the historical EPS for the last 5 years?
selah
#264 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:55:44 PM
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@SAC very poor if you are to factor in the share split.

Check the prospectus

http://www.slideshare.ne...ged-prospectusv9-8519276
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SAC Cohen
#265 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:23:00 PM
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[quote=selah]@SAC very poor if you are to factor in the share split.

Check the prospectus

http://www.slideshare.ne...ed-prospectusv9-8519276[/quote]

Thx
Aguytrying
#266 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:28:56 PM
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This will sound very wanjiku like, but there's no other way to say it. CFCIH baffles us all and continues to due to is share price. I dont thikn britak will be an exception. But purely speculation
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#267 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 6:15:34 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
This will sound very wanjiku like, but there's no other way to say it. CFCIH baffles us all and continues to due to is share price. I dont thikn britak will be an exception. But purely speculation

@Aguytrying, i always like your optimism. BTW on this,jus get your hands on it!
@SufficientlyP
Sober
#268 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 7:04:47 PM
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I am in this but for the short term. No holding of this hot coal for long
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2012
#269 Posted : Friday, July 08, 2011 12:02:33 PM
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Did I hear right that there will be a high minimum number of shares set even for individual investors? What is it and is the intention to lock out the Wanjikus?

Secondly can someone confirm if brokers now have these prospectors in their offices, they didn't have them last week.

BBI will solve it
:)
dunkang
#270 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 3:41:03 AM
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mwanahisa
#271 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 9:05:45 AM
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2012 wrote:
Did I hear right that there will be a high minimum number of shares set even for individual investors? YOU HEARD WRONG, MINIMUM NO. OF SHARES IS 2,000. What is it and is the intention to lock out the Wanjikus? NO, THEY REALLY NEED THE WANJIKUS AS THEY CANNOT BE SURE THAT THE BIG FISH WILL BITE!

Secondly can someone confirm if brokers now have these prospectors in their offices, they didn't have them last week.YES THEY HAVE THEM.

FUNKY
#272 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 9:13:57 AM
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I got a copy of the prospectus directly from their office.
mlennyma
#273 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 9:30:05 AM
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I have the cash but iam fence sitting listening to my instinct,and observing the demand.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
lovely2010
#274 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 9:31:44 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
2012 wrote:
Did I hear right that there will be a high minimum number of shares set even for individual investors? YOU HEARD WRONG, MINIMUM NO. OF SHARES IS 2,000. What is it and is the intention to lock out the Wanjikus? NO, THEY REALLY NEED THE WANJIKUS AS THEY CANNOT BE SURE THAT THE BIG FISH WILL BITE!

Secondly can someone confirm if brokers now have these prospectors in their offices, they didn't have them last week.YES THEY HAVE THEM.



Prospectus were sent via email if ur with cfc for Britak, Trans and Bank de Kigali
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#275 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 12:10:34 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
I have the cash but iam fence sitting listening to my instinct,and observing the demand.

Hope u will participate. could very much be your last/final substantial gains(30%) till we go to the polls!
@SufficientlyP
dunkang
#276 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 12:11:25 PM
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mwanahisa
#277 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 12:30:19 PM
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Was this your final word on the BA IPO?

Deal or No Deal?

the deal wrote:
I saw the company from an insider perspective although my research on them is correct in many aspects...i must admit its too critical and it seems they are willing to address some of the concerns raised on the blog..i.e Britak is the no1 ordinary life insurer...they have reduced their exposure to Equity which to me was long overdue due to the market risk associated with that stake @mainat..they have prime land banks in upper hill...lavington...they recently finished a development...also its wrong to compare them to Jub because Jub is a composite insurer...the CEO also said the lack of diversification was because of being a private company and their using IPO funds to address that...so for long term you cant go wrong.

Layman
#278 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 1:36:19 PM
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mwanahisa wrote:
Was this your final word on the BA IPO?

Deal or No Deal?

the deal wrote:
I saw the company from an insider perspective although my research on them is correct in many aspects...i must admit its too critical and it seems they are willing to address some of the concerns raised on the blog..i.e Britak is the no1 ordinary life insurer...they have reduced their exposure to Equity which to me was long overdue due to the market risk associated with that stake @mainat..they have prime land banks in upper hill...lavington...they recently finished a development...also its wrong to compare them to Jub because Jub is a composite insurer...the CEO also said the lack of diversification was because of being a private company and their using IPO funds to address that...so for long term you cant go wrong.



Thay have not reduced their share in Equity. Its intact.
youcan'tstopusnow
#279 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 1:57:06 PM
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Layman wrote:
mwanahisa wrote:
Was this your final word on the BA IPO?

Deal or No Deal?

the deal wrote:
I saw the company from an insider perspective although my research on them is correct in many aspects...i must admit its too critical and it seems they are willing to address some of the concerns raised on the blog..i.e Britak is the no1 ordinary life insurer...they have reduced their exposure to Equity which to me was long overdue due to the market risk associated with that stake @mainat..they have prime land banks in upper hill...lavington...they recently finished a development...also its wrong to compare them to Jub because Jub is a composite insurer...the CEO also said the lack of diversification was because of being a private company and their using IPO funds to address that...so for long term you cant go wrong.



Thay have not reduced their share in Equity. Its intact.


Equity is BRITAK's "Trophy Wife" You don't want to lose those!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
the deal
#280 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2011 2:33:06 PM
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I'm less bullish on BRITAK anybody buying the IPO, think 3-5 years...that's my advice.
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