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Hunderwear
#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:36:02 PM
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@Wazuans it's an open secret that if you can hack it commercial farming in kenya is a cashcow.However marketing is a big issue which I believe like minded wazuans can tackle through information sharing.
The purpose of this thread is for those wazuans with any experience or even practicing poultry farming at any level to share with the rest.Until recently this was a money minting biz but the current inflation has led to run away feeds prices.The egg prices are yet to respond thus eating on our profits.AM CURRENTLY SELLING 235 SH. PER TRAY at the farm.Na kwenu mwauzaje?
jasonhill
#2 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:08:55 AM
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I hear that it is labor intensive and time consuming, even if you hire people to run the farm for you, which leaves little time to market the product effectively.

Thoughts? Can anyone outline a typical day in the life of a poultry farmer, or at least a poultry farm manager?

Best,

Hill
Gathige
#3 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 9:49:33 AM
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@ Hundewear, i tried this biz and was dealing with broilers some 5 years ago and after one year, i stopped doing it. Below were the challenges i faced,

1. Sourcing the chicks- The first set of chicks was easy to get and thereafter i had to make bookings before i could get them. Some times i could get sometimes i could miss and this disrupted my supply of the broilers. My lesson learnt was to be very careful where to get a regular source of chicks from. Big companies promise to deliver but fail to honor promises

2. Feed. Apart from pricing, quality of the feed is an issue. Some feeds are so poor you feed them to the chicks and add no weight. I was finally able to get a vet doc who was making feeds and his feed were the best as they guaranteed weight gain within the period time. My lesson learnt was to be careful to get the right feeds. When i get back to this biz i will make own feeds as it is a simple process once u have the right formulation

3. MARKETING. This was my worst nighmare. I had to deal with brokers, fish and chips shops in town and at times sell at City Market. My lesson learnt was to be sure of the market before u start to avoid burning your money literally. Firm orders, an outlet to sell in small lots (in kgs) etc would work best.

4. Disease. I was lucky a vet doc friend of mine was advising me on drugs and hygiene. Disease control is important as an outbreak can clear a stock. There are very may shops selling substandard animal drugs and one need to be sure that the product used actually works. My lesson learnt was to get a good vet doc to advise before you buy and administer drugs, some of which can be harmful to consumers if not well administered.

I learnt my lesson and since i still have my structure and equipment, i plan to do it later in life when i can dedicate my time full time and i am sure i will make money.

My 2 cents
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
dijkstra
#4 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:58:48 AM
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@Hunderwear
First let me commend you for starting this thread. I just started
rearing layers a year ago and up to now challenges especially feed prices
have kept me thinking and researching all over, especially in the net.

Feed Prices and Quality
Currently the feed has become expensive and also the quality has gone down because of the maize shortage. Chicken feed without enough maize is not good and will lead to low egg production.

Egg Prices
Secondly as you have said the price of eggs is not increasing to reflect the new feed prices. I believe the normal price at the moment should be 260 per crate when selling to wholesalers. However i only manage to convince a few to buy at 240; and they are complaining every day. Two months ago I could sell 10 trays at 230each and buy a 70kg of feed at 2300. Now the same feed costs 2600! And best egg-price I get is 240.

Mixing Own Feed
I just tried mixing my own feed to cut down on the production cost and my egg production went tumbling down; am now back to buying the commercial feeds. Mixing own feed is tricky but saves a lot of money if you get the formula right. Am thinking that my formula didn’t have the right quantities of each ingredient s esp. Protein after I came across the following link on how to calculate required chicken feed protein using PEARSON'S SQUARE:
http://www.lionsgrip.com/protein.html
Am currently trying it on one of my flocks to experiment and am hoping it works. This can cut the cost of production by even 20%.

Layers vs. Broilers
I am on layers and find it more comfortable with them than broilers. Egg market is wide. If you drive around the estate with 20 crates of eggs you are most likely to get a buyer. Again you can comfortably hoard your eggs for sometime as you look for appropriate market. I have a colleague who tried broilers and gave after after struggling to sell his first batch.

Labour
Starting up is not a joke. You need to be dedicated to the job especially when chicks are small. You may need to visit the farm every day to ensure chicks are kept well especially under correct temperature and that they sleep well without suffocating each other etc. You need to have adequate clean water. You need to train you employee(s) well on taking care them.
After the chicks are 8 weeks or older, the hustle reduces. You just need to provide feed, water and med.
Marketing is a hustle when starting up.. Like selling your initial eggs. However after a while you get to know several buyers and only the price will determine who you do business with.

Way Forward
• Let share as much info as we can esp:
o On how to get/make quality and cheaper feeds
o Where to get better market
• I expect Feed prices to drop and quality to increase after imported maize arrives

Cheers all
PATTIE
#5 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:55:01 PM
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hi guys.
for sure the cost of the feed has tremediously eroded the profits.
another thing is that after feeding the chicken with the sub-standard feed they cut down the laying hence deepening the margin.

@gatige.
could you share out the feed formulation for layers? and also for pig feed.
keke2
#6 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:12:15 PM
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This is a great thread! reason being Poultry and Stocks have one thing in common,it calls for patience.

I did poultry about 6years ago but concentrated on semi-Freerange layers.
Semi because they were confined in a mesh yard but fed on my prescribed feedsSad e.g omena to supliment proteins.
I had a ready market from my immediate relatives with hotels and friends with retails shops but they warned me against dissappointments since they had ready clients who insisted in freerange eggs, just the way I do today.
The returns were handsome because I was doing it in person wit one helper and would collect a minimum of 5crates from 100 layers,some were giving 2/day.

I was in it for close to a year while on employment break to raise kekelet but the day I delegated the running of the farm to employees I lost it.
But wil do the Freerange layers again!
Tebes
#7 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:06:41 PM
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Broilers or Layers?

Neither for me. The only person who can profit from this business currently is whoever has his own Hotel. At the hotel two fried eggs will go for between 40-80 bob, whereas they purchase at a meagre sh8/=. Tell me with the soaring cost of feeds the farmer will be left poorer, having burnt his fingere badly.

Broiler farmer is equally disadvantaged unless he has opened his own hotel.
"Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
dijkstra
#8 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:22:44 PM
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Yes, anybody with a tested feed formula for layers pls share..
TD
#9 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 3:07:07 PM
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@keke2

Mayai mbili kwa siku? Hiyo nimeishuku. Ile miaka yote nimelea kuku wanachomoa at best once a day, mostly 3 eggs in 4 days. My vet told me that in controlled condition some breeds could lay 325 eggs in a year. Ama yako ni ile "golden goose" ya hadithi za babu?
keke2
#10 Posted : Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:53:43 PM
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TD wrote:
@keke2

Mayai mbili kwa siku? Hiyo nimeishuku. Ile miaka yote nimelea kuku wanachomoa at best once a day, mostly 3 eggs in 4 days. My vet told me that in controlled condition some breeds could lay 325 eggs in a year. Ama yako ni ile "golden goose" ya hadithi za babu?

@ TD
I thought I missed to enter my kukus in the guinness bookLaughing out loudly until I read from other farmers in Google who have experience/d the same..!
Young Freerange layers when happy can surprise.
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