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tuvok
#81 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 3:22:28 PM
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Silly season (aka transfer period) in it's fullness. I wouldn't believe anything to do with any transfer from club Y to Z unless it appeared on official websites. Anything else is agents looking for money and journalists itching to get a story out.
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MaichBlack
#82 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 3:25:11 PM
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It is OFFICIAL!!! @TAZ has finally outdone Alfred Mutua. It takes talent to pull moves like this in a spsn of 15 minutes.

Read this:

TAZ wrote:
On why Wenger let Nasri's contract run to the final year......

.....I still believe Wenger would let him leave at the end of next season (whether he signs or not) at a reasonable price if he gets a good replacement for cesc.

Now read this:

TAZ wrote:
@Bkismat....I said Wenger might still let Nasri leave end of next season WHETHER HE SIGNS A NEW CONTRACT OR NOT. What you don't seem to realise is that Nasri can still decide to stay at Arsenal if he gets a good deal at the end of next season. He'll only be a free agent which means he can negotiate with anyone. The Bosman free transfer will come into effect if the player decides to sign for another club.

Sasa kama hii si talent ni nini?
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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TAZ
#83 Posted : Friday, July 01, 2011 3:27:12 PM
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“We are in a waiting period, everybody is waiting that the other [club] moves,” Wenger

“It is a transfer period. Everybody has their cards in [their] hands, hoping for the big transfer. There is nothing moving yet. The period will me more active at the end of July when we will need to really strengthen the team."

As @Tuvok has said don't waste your time reading too much of what comes out of the English media on transfers.....

@ Maichblack....I don't think it takes a genius to get my point. Henry was sold to Barca one year after signing a new deal at Arsenal. I'll repeat again Wenger can still let Nasri leave at the end of the season (whether he signs or not) at a reasonable price (assume he signs) at the end of the season if he gets a good replacement for Cesc. I've intentionally added a few more lines in brackets to make it a bit easier for you.
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mwenza
#84 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 3:40:57 PM
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Barca went for 6yrs without a trophy because they were under construction. There is a certain club which is clearly under destruction!

http://www.tribalfootbal...ig-name-signings-1732281
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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MaichBlack
#85 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:00:44 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Barca went for 6yrs without a trophy because they were under construction. There is a certain club which is clearly under destruction!

Now brace yourself for a convoluted explanation from one Alfred Mutua, ah, sorry, @TAZ. The selling club just became a 'sold' club.

Wenger has to start paying his star players 'grownup salaries' and winning an odd trophy here and there or be stuck with babies for ever. And even his judgement is highly questionable. Letting underpaid players run down their contracts to the final year is such a rookie mistake. Arsenal are set to receive only £7m for Gael Clichy from the Man City billionaires who normally pay obscene amounts for players and all this in an overheated market where even untested 19 year olds are being quoted at £40m. Genius my [left] foot!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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mwenza
#86 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:03:41 PM
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TAZ wrote:
@Bkismat....I said Wenger might still let Nasri leave end of next season WHETHER HE SIGNS A NEW CONTRACT OR NOT. What you don't seem to realise is that Nasri can still decide to stay at Arsenal if he gets a good deal at the end of next season. He'll only be a free agent which means he can negotiate with anyone. The Bosman free transfer will come into effect if the player decides to sign for another club. In 2007 Owen Hagreaves signed for Man Utd in a deal worth 17m pounds, just recently SAF announced that the club will not offer him a new contract. Arsenal did the same thing to William Gallas before he joined Spurs so i really doubt Wenger will be worried about what happens next year July.

Anyway i'm sure it will not get into that because we still have two months to go to the end of the transfer window and the player's wage demands are not that high 110,000k (what Cesc currently earns).




I missed out on this discussion yesterday.

What nobody has mentioned is that when a player only has 12months to go on their contract, they are free to sign a pre-contract agreement with any other club.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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MaichBlack
#87 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:09:11 PM
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mwenza wrote:
TAZ wrote:
@Bkismat....I said Wenger might still let Nasri leave end of next season WHETHER HE SIGNS A NEW CONTRACT OR NOT. What you don't seem to realise is that Nasri can still decide to stay at Arsenal if he gets a good deal at the end of next season. He'll only be a free agent which means he can negotiate with anyone. The Bosman free transfer will come into effect if the player decides to sign for another club. In 2007 Owen Hagreaves signed for Man Utd in a deal worth 17m pounds, just recently SAF announced that the club will not offer him a new contract. Arsenal did the same thing to William Gallas before he joined Spurs so i really doubt Wenger will be worried about what happens next year July.

Anyway i'm sure it will not get into that because we still have two months to go to the end of the transfer window and the player's wage demands are not that high 110,000k (what Cesc currently earns).


I missed out on this discussion yesterday.

What nobody has mentioned is that when a player only has 12months to go on their contract, they are free to sign a pre-contract agreement with any other club.

That could have complicated the discussion too much for @TAZ. Have you read posts #77 to #80?
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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mwenza
#88 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:15:02 PM
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@Maichblack...... I have read. Talk of people in denial. Talk of a club in crisis even before the season kicks off.
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mwenza
#89 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:20:27 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Barca went for 6yrs without a trophy because they were under construction. There is a certain club which is clearly under destruction!

Now brace yourself for a convoluted explanation from one Alfred Mutua, ah, sorry, @TAZ. The selling club just became a 'sold' club.

Wenger has to start paying his star players 'grownup salaries' and winning an odd trophy here and there or be stuck with babies for ever. And even his judgement is highly questionable. Letting underpaid players run down their contracts to the final year is such a rookie mistake. Arsenal are set to receive only £7m for Gael Clichy from the Man City billionaires who normally pay obscene amounts for players and all this in an overheated market where even untested 19 year olds are being quoted at £40m. Genius my [left] foot!!!



One fact which is overlooked by many is that because of their performance on the pitch, no good player is interested in signing for aseno.

When mr bean says he will sign at the end of July, what he is saying in effect is that he will go for "Mathuro".

But again there are some aseno fans who are excited by small names like "gervinho". Talk of "Ambition" and "ambition".
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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MaichBlack
#90 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 4:29:03 PM
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mwenza wrote:
One fact which is overlooked by many is that because of their performance on the pitch, no good player is interested in signing for aaeno.

True. A player signs for a team either for money or success - and if possible, both. At Arsenal you get neither!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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