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Internships in Kenya...argh!!!
dunkang
#21 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:43:19 PM
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bkismat wrote:
Kudos Mukiha. Most of the replies above are no different from what the UoN students do. I think a number of you may have passed through the institution and a lot of what happens is purely due to mob psychology.


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@ bkismat, you forgot to quote me;

dunkang wrote:
I think u r been too hard on UoN students.
Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own!
(UoN have a superiority complex though).


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McReggae
#22 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 3:44:24 PM
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bkismat wrote:
Kudos Mukiha. Most of the replies above are no different from what the UoN students do. I think a number of you may have passed through the institution and a lot of what happens is purely due to mob psychology.


dont you worry, as you know the opposite of superiority complex is inferiority complex!!!!
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wairegi
#23 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:30:18 PM
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Not all of the UON students are bad. Imagine if the whole population was to be in the streets.Shame on you Shame on you
Gordon Gekko
#24 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:42:19 AM
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dunkang wrote:
I think u r been too hard on UoN students.
Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own!
(UoN have a superiority complex though).

If you were hiring, and it boiled down to two candidates evenly matched, one from UoN and the other Strath/Baraton/Catholic/MKU, who would you pick?
KulaRaha
#25 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 7:56:55 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
dunkang wrote:
I think u r been too hard on UoN students.
Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own!
(UoN have a superiority complex though).

If you were hiring, and it boiled down to two candidates evenly matched, one from UoN and the other Strath/Baraton/Catholic/MKU, who would you pick?


Who do you think?
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mukiha
#26 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:10:45 AM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
dunkang wrote:
I think u r been too hard on UoN students.
Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own!
(UoN have a superiority complex though).

If you were hiring, and it boiled down to two candidates evenly matched, one from UoN and the other Strath/Baraton/Catholic/MKU, who would you pick?


I'd look at my current establishment and check to see if there is a relationship between university attended and performance.

It would be very unfair to assume that because 200 UoN students are stone-throwing idiots, the remaining 49,800 are also stone throwing idiots.
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mukiha
#27 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:12:32 AM
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....and BTW, I am not a UoN graduate
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KulaRaha
#28 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:14:12 AM
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mukiha wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
dunkang wrote:
I think u r been too hard on UoN students.
Other than they feeling more important than the others, please HELP them get attachments. Its very important for them to graduate. This brothers and sisters misbehave because of MOB Psychology. Once they graduate, they are on their own!
(UoN have a superiority complex though).

If you were hiring, and it boiled down to two candidates evenly matched, one from UoN and the other Strath/Baraton/Catholic/MKU, who would you pick?


I'd look at my current establishment and check to see if there is a relationship between university attended and performance.

It would be very unfair to assume that because 200 UoN students are stone-throwing idiots, the remaining 49,800 are also stone throwing idiots.


Talk to HR...you'll be amazed how much harder working and more respectful non-UON recruits are.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
2 Miles
#29 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:39:56 AM
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Merely rejecting a student from UON because he/she is from UON is a bit shocking.

Situations are very different. Students from public universities like UON come from diverse backgrounds unlike those from private universities. Furthermore , the selection process is very different. Having attended a private & a public university , I think it is only fair to recruit on individual competencies.

Because , I have friends from Strathmore , who I doubt if they can work under pressure. The type who are brought to school by a driver ,dub assignments & can't do a proper research paper. Well , this is not the type of a character who will ever throw stones.

Likewise , I have friends in UON , doin Engineering , who will not hesitate to throw stones. But they are very good upstairs and they have great ideas. Bright minds I tell u.

Am just trying to illustrate that discrimination based on university attended is a dangerous line of thought.
Sasha
#30 Posted : Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:47:32 AM
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As much as I don't agree with generelisation, I understand where KulaRaha is coming from. It is a form of risk aversion on his part.

I think the biggest problem we have is the disconnect between the curriculum and business needs. I use interns as much as I can coz I find them a cheap resource and when I see one with potential I always bring them in when there is a vacancy.

What universities need to do (and I understand Strathmore is doing it now) is to have SLA's with the large employers (e.g. KQ, manufacturing industries, government) where the employers indicate what kind of skills they want their personnel to have. Then the universities can model their courses to equip their students with these skills. I'm sure even the stone throwers can find employment that requires their kind of expertise!

@joan: If you don't want to do KYMs then you better stop looking for work. Majority of people here will tell you that they started with KYMs. No employer is going to trust an intern to do important work that is crucial to the success of the company. I did filing 8 months before I got to do anything worth of note. The 8 months included doing cash book reconciliations with a pencil and a 7-column! And I don't regret it one bit!
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