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Kenol Kobil HY 2011 - Profit Advice
Cde Monomotapa
#201 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:09:37 PM
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The price of KK is what it is today as whatever it will be going-forward. But its price today as a function of its value (earnings, mkt cap, dividend yield & prospects) is undervalued. Thus, I side with @VVS & not Mr. Media man a.k.a @the deal.
Horton
#202 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:17:42 PM
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guru267 wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
i thinkn the wonderful results are due today or kesho and the stock is dead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but we need to know how the esop will be carried out.Manze this is a dead market and i dnt know how some of you were anticipating a 15/= rally..
indeed lets see if it goes upto 9.00


Dude I think your IQ is collapsing by the second.. How are june 30th results supposed to come out on june 27th?? I suggest you check in to mathare ASAP..



Btw did u 2 lovebirds ever go out on that date??Laughing out loudly
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#203 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:28:29 PM
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Horton wrote:
guru267 wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
i thinkn the wonderful results are due today or kesho and the stock is dead !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but we need to know how the esop will be carried out.Manze this is a dead market and i dnt know how some of you were anticipating a 15/= rally..
indeed lets see if it goes upto 9.00


Dude I think your IQ is collapsing by the second.. How are june 30th results supposed to come out on june 27th?? I suggest you check in to mathare ASAP..



Btw did u 2 lovebirds ever go out on that date??Laughing out loudly


@guru, please cut @QW some slack. H1 results are not audited, hence the company can literally report whatever they want. They can add the 4 days business (30 June - 26June) by extrapolating on the basis of the previous 176 days.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
That date, did it happen?
youcan'tstopusnow
#204 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:31:17 PM
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"Price is what you pay. Value is what you get"
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youcan'tstopusnow
#205 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:34:00 PM
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I don't know whether I can classify the following statement as as invitation to a date:
"If I win the bet, I will have your ass for dinner!"
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youcan'tstopusnow
#206 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:35:42 PM
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Cde, the media is always rightLaughing out loudly
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the deal
#207 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 12:57:30 PM
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Whatever you guys say doesnt matter...i'm up 19% on KK but wouldnt mind diluting myself at 10-10.70 range...btwn @QW go for that date...u have my support.
Cde Monomotapa
#208 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 1:02:03 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
"Price is what you pay. Value is what you get"

Simply. Thank you Laughing out loudly
Cde Monomotapa
#209 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 1:03:40 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde, the media is always rightLaughing out loudly

C'mon man...we both know better LOL!!
Aguytrying
#210 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 6:46:22 PM
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picture this paradox. The last time the market had an upswing to 4100. Kk didn't move. Even after div, it didn't cross ten bob. Then after this announcement, the share is moving in opposite direction to the nse. Against all odds. Very weird indeed. I think its kind of irresponsible for kk to give profit advice. What's their aim, in all this? Companies are not supposed to try manipulate their share price, or be always on the media trying to lift the price.end rant
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Cde Monomotapa
#211 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 6:56:55 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
picture this paradox. The last time the market had an upswing to 4100. Kk didn't move. Even after div, it didn't cross ten bob. Then after this announcement, the share is moving in opposite direction to the nse. Against all odds. Very weird indeed. I think its kind of irresponsible for kk to give profit advice. What's their aim, in all this? Companies are not supposed to try manipulate their share price, or be always on the media trying to lift the price.end rant

FAQ: R U a share-holder?
youcan'tstopusnow
#212 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 7:38:09 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
picture this paradox. The last time the market had an upswing to 4100. Kk didn't move. Even after div, it didn't cross ten bob. Then after this announcement, the share is moving in opposite direction to the nse. Against all odds. Very weird indeed. I think its kind of irresponsible for kk to give profit advice. What's their aim, in all this? Companies are not supposed to try manipulate their share price, or be always on the media trying to lift the price.end rant

FAQ: R U a share-holder?


Maybe Aguytrying is just mad at Segman for not giving him the opportunity to accumulate more @10 bob before the results...
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guru267
#213 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 7:58:31 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
picture this paradox. The last time the market had an upswing to 4100. Kk didn't move. Even after div, it didn't cross ten bob. Then after this announcement, the share is moving in opposite direction to the nse. Against all odds. Very weird indeed. I think its kind of irresponsible for kk to give profit advice. What's their aim, in all this? Companies are not supposed to try manipulate their share price, or be always on the media trying to lift the price.end rant


Nothing wrong with management telling shareholders their investment is safe is there??
Profit advice is a common thing in develpped markets also
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chaliwong
#214 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 8:05:10 PM
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What stops the other listed companies from making a similar projections?

If this is the reaction when there is such an announcement, I wonder how some people would react if it was a profit/loss warning?

I also thought good news(results) are supposed to drive a share up and vice-visa with bad news!!
the deal
#215 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 9:38:24 PM
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Cde Monomotapa
#216 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 9:56:22 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
picture this paradox. The last time the market had an upswing to 4100. Kk didn't move. Even after div, it didn't cross ten bob. Then after this announcement, the share is moving in opposite direction to the nse. Against all odds. Very weird indeed. I think its kind of irresponsible for kk to give profit advice. What's their aim, in all this? Companies are not supposed to try manipulate their share price, or be always on the media trying to lift the price.end rant

FAQ: R U a share-holder?


Maybe Aguytrying is just mad at Segman for not giving him the opportunity to accumulate more @10 bob before the results...

True. Sounds sour-grapish to me too..
Cde Monomotapa
#217 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 9:59:22 PM
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chaliwong wrote:
What stops the other listed companies from making a similar projections?

If this is the reaction when there is such an announcement, I wonder how some people would react if it was a profit/loss warning?

I also thought good news(results) are supposed to drive a share up and vice-visa with bad news!!

Seems @Aguy would prefer profit-warnings only. Sameer & Eveready would be good.
Cde Monomotapa
#218 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 10:06:48 PM
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[quote=the deal]Someone becareful http://m.standardmedia.c...lines.php?id=2000037937[/quote]
The Kenyan dating mkt is also over-due for a (down-ward) correction no doubt.
the deal
#219 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 10:09:12 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=the deal]Someone becareful http://m.standardmedia.c...lines.php?id=2000037937[/quote]
The Kenyan dating mkt is also over-due for a (down-ward) correction no doubt.

Alot of people share my sentiments http://www.businessdailyafrica.com ) Remember the media is always right.
the deal
#220 Posted : Monday, June 27, 2011 10:15:04 PM
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the deal wrote:
[quote=Cde Monomotapa][quote=the deal]Someone becareful http://m.standardmedia.c...lines.php?id=2000037937[/quote]
The Kenyan dating mkt is also over-due for a (down-ward) correction no doubt.

Alot of people share my sentiments www.businessdailyafrica....2/-/dhv8omz/-/index.html Remember the media is always rightsmile
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