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#341 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:33:43 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
@The deal,

Do not believe everything you read.It won't happen and if it does,kindly remind me and i'll gladly Mpesa you enough for a crate of your favourite..........And i am not BUY,BUY,BUY...SELL,SELL,SELLsmile ....I keep my word.

Yes I believe you @Njunge...for them to produce 300K mt in 2012 production has to jump by 20% from this years 250k mt which is unbelievablesmile but this years numbers will be positive otherwise this thing will.sell.sell.sell to 3bob.smile
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#342 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 6:51:09 PM
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guru267 wrote:
@njunge is mumias a speculative buy at 7.35 in your opinion??
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I need not say a big NO but i seriously doubt.I can't see much price movement (Looks like it will be stagnant) into mid 2012.....but that's me.
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#343 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:20:53 PM
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the Deal wrote :-

[i]We Rate Mumias Sugar a Speculative Buy on Increased Sugar Output

Check our report here http://contrarianinvesti...speculative-buy-on.html[/i]




@the big deal


Pardon my ignorance if I am wrong or clarify the statement below in your blog on Mumias


The company recently reported below par results, its 1H earnings for the year ending 30 June 2011 dropped by 22%

Does Kenya firms report results before end of trading period ? Today is June 23 and their 1H 2011 (from your report) ends in June 30 ?


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Cde Monomotapa
#344 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:43:15 PM
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young wrote:
the Deal wrote :-

[i]We Rate Mumias Sugar a Speculative Buy on Increased Sugar Output

Check our report here http://contrarianinvesti...speculative-buy-on.html[/i]




@the big deal


Pardon my ignorance if I am wrong or clarify the statement below in your block on Mumias


The company recently reported below par results, its 1H earnings for the year ending 30 June 2011 dropped by 22%

Does Kenya firms report results before end of trading period ? Today is June 23 and their 1H 2011 (from your report) ends in June 30 ?


Regards

Yes Mr. Media man?
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#345 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:40:34 PM
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The biggest problem with this co. is lack of leadership over the past few years as Kidero harbours some political ambition & wants to run i think for governor's seat thus his concentration on the company has been at an all time low.


I also heard that... you mean Nairobi not Kakamega right?

Yap.
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#346 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:25:51 PM
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@young half year earnings come before full year earnings...the media is always right...Lol.
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#347 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:29:32 PM
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erifloss wrote:
Genghis Khan wrote:
erifloss wrote:
The biggest problem with this co. is lack of leadership over the past few years as Kidero harbours some political ambition & wants to run i think for governor's seat thus his concentration on the company has been at an all time low.


I also heard that... you mean Nairobi not Kakamega right?

Yap.


Kidero should leave. Current CFO,Peter Kebati looks like a great candidate for the CEO job
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#348 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:24:11 PM
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MSC made 1.03 Bln in 1H 2010...only for it to post FY PAT of 1.4 Bln which means MSC only made a paltry Sh 400 Mln in 2H 2010 which is way below the Sh 816 Mln they made during 1H 2011...look at the numbers and you will see MSC will suprise... http://contrarianinvestingkenya.blogspot.com its Free.
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#349 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:23:27 PM
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MSC made 1.03 Bln in 1H 2010...only for it to post FY PAT of 1.4 Bln which means MSC only made a paltry Sh 400 Mln in 2H 2010 which is way below the Sh 816 Mln they made during 1H 2011...look at the numbers and you will see MSC will suprise... http://contrarianinvestingkenya.blogspot.com its Free.


@the deal we are on the same page.. 2011 will be better than 2010 but im not sure about the share price though 7bob is too low..
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#350 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:16:09 PM
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And it goes lower...
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#351 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:01:23 PM
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@Genghis Khan, if he were to stand for Governor why would he consider Kakamega and not his home town of Homa-bay?.I do not consider Kakamega to be as cosmopolitan as Nairobi.
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#352 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:47:09 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And it goes lower...


a fall from 7.00 will make this stock go lower to 3.00 ..my bet is that somebody is playing with this stock ! pushing it lower because the volumes today were small..anywayz if it falls the better..
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#353 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:02:02 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And it goes lower...


a fall from 7.00 will make this stock go lower to 3.00 ..my bet is that somebody is playing with this stock ! pushing it lower because the volumes today were small..anywayz if it falls the better..

Its oversold @ 7 bob...i have an order at 6.80 I will be lucky for it to go to that level...3 bob not to say never I dont think it will happen anytime soon..did you sell the lot you got 14?Laughing out loudly
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#354 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:07:54 PM
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the deal wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And it goes lower...


a fall from 7.00 will make this stock go lower to 3.00 ..my bet is that somebody is playing with this stock ! pushing it lower because the volumes today were small..anywayz if it falls the better..

Its oversold @ 7 bob...i have an order at 6.80 I will be lucky for it to go to that level...3 bob not to say never I dont think it will happen anytime soon..did you sell the lot you got 14?Laughing out loudly


am following pure technical analysis.we said a.k cannt reach 7.00 .Laughing out loudly loelst Ah yeah. i sold my stock which i bought at 14.00 .i guess i was pretty unlucky buying at the top thats why n.s.e shld enable us to short these shares
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#355 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:13:22 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
the deal wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And it goes lower...


a fall from 7.00 will make this stock go lower to 3.00 ..my bet is that somebody is playing with this stock ! pushing it lower because the volumes today were small..anywayz if it falls the better..

Its oversold @ 7 bob...i have an order at 6.80 I will be lucky for it to go to that level...3 bob not to say never I dont think it will happen anytime soon..did you sell the lot you got 14?Laughing out loudly


am following pure technical analysis.we said a.k cannt reach 7.00 .Laughing out loudly loelst Ah yeah. i sold my stock which i bought at 14.00 .i guess i was pretty unlucky buying at the top thats why n.s.e shld enable us to short these shares

If its purely TA...look where that RSI is...its inches away from crossing below 30...your screen should be blinking buy...i'm also trading this one...
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#356 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:54:59 PM
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the deal wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
the deal wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
And it goes lower...


a fall from 7.00 will make this stock go lower to 3.00 ..my bet is that somebody is playing with this stock ! pushing it lower because the volumes today were small..anywayz if it falls the better..

Its oversold @ 7 bob...i have an order at 6.80 I will be lucky for it to go to that level...3 bob not to say never I dont think it will happen anytime soon..did you sell the lot you got 14?Laughing out loudly


am following pure technical analysis.we said a.k cannt reach 7.00 .Laughing out loudly loelst Ah yeah. i sold my stock which i bought at 14.00 .i guess i was pretty unlucky buying at the top thats why n.s.e shld enable us to short these shares

If its purely TA...look where that RSI is...its inches away from crossing below 30...your screen should be blinking buy...i'm also trading this one...


be very careful.untill you see some buy volume coming up i would say you stay out of it..
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#357 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:55:05 PM
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Just like before. Rebound to 7.80 when the market turns back up in a few weeks.
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#358 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:29:03 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Just like before. Rebound to 7.80 when the market turns back up in a few weeks.

if...
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#359 Posted : Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:25:45 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Just like before. Rebound to 7.80 when the market turns back up in a few weeks.

if...

ha ha. Yeah. It will, it always does. Its not next year yet...
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#360 Posted : Saturday, July 02, 2011 2:47:25 PM
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I am giving MSC a CAUTIOUS thumbs up at the current price range of 7.00 - 7.20. If we are to believe Mgt, they will have produced about 137K MT of sugar in H2 2011 which will be more than the production of about 119K MT in H2 2010 - a near 15% increase. This should translate into some nice profitability numbers for H2, "ceteris paribus" given that in 2010 most of the damage was in the 2nd half of the year. I am assuming that sales were in tandem with production.

It is worth noting that Full Year production at 250 MT of sugar is only 6.03% higher than last year's production. So we have to trust that the price and margins were substantially higher than that.

As far as share price is concerned, one can never tell. However, MSC has been fairly stubborn in resisting going below Kshs 7 for a long while, so it may be due for a nice bounce.

Cautionary note: With MSC, I would expect a selloff for small timers to try their luck with BA, such has been the nature of the share.
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