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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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bwenyenye wrote:
What you are referring to is NOT as Wife but a Partner. You never pay Bride price for a partner. Bibi yako hukusikiza and takes your direction on all matters finance included! If you do not know about her total income as in she does not account to You basi wewe kwisha and you are a fool to pay anytihing for such person!
In most cases bride price terms are CWO(Cash With Order) plus some COD asked for rudely on the wedding day. You later get disappointed after paying a whopping milli that she thinks you are equal, or worse, you are her junior. I know some men who take care of all madam's expenses. They say her money is for personal expenses. Should she in such case pay dowry for her hubby? Then I think something's wrong with any woman who justifies bride price 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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...since the amount involved is huge, the beneficiaries of dowry should be taxed! 30%! 
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/18/2008 Posts: 796
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Surealligator wrote:mozenrat wrote:Labda akuwe na airport inaongea @Mozenrat Surely, what would you expect it to say? Mmmmchamchammmmcha
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/18/2008 Posts: 796
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mukiha wrote:from her name, I figure that she is a Kikuyu. In the Kikuyu tradition, bride price is a fixed number of goats in your respective clan...
Negotiations centre around the cash value per goat and how many goats will be acceptable as the first installment. The total number is NOT NEGOTIABLE!
In addition, the negotiations are between parents - the marrying children are not involved. That is when a man is marrying his first wife. For any subsequent wife, the husband to be negotiates directly with the girls parents.... in her absence.
So this girl has got it all wrong; her parents might just decide to give her away with a first installment of two goats...about 10k Mukiha, I don't think this is entirely accurate.The Northern Kikuyu usually asked for 30 to 40 goats (or 3-4 cows) but the Southern Kikuyu were expensive (80 to 100 goats exclusive of other requisites). The actual dowry (kuracia kana gutarirwo mirongo) was enumerated in accordance with the number that the bride's father had paid for her mother giving rise to a constant figure over the generations within a clan giving the impression that the prices was fixed. The fact is, though that the woman was nothing more than a commodity and could even be mortgaged for debt or used to pay a fine by her father.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 190
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Surealligator wrote:mukiha wrote:from her name, I figure that she is a Kikuyu. In the Kikuyu tradition, bride price is a fixed number of goats in your respective clan...
Negotiations centre around the cash value per goat and how many goats will be acceptable as the first installment. The total number is NOT NEGOTIABLE!
In addition, the negotiations are between parents - the marrying children are not involved. That is when a man is marrying his first wife. For any subsequent wife, the husband to be negotiates directly with the girls parents.... in her absence.
So this girl has got it all wrong; her parents might just decide to give her away with a first installment of two goats...about 10k @Mukiha You have spoken like an elder, the one who has given a buri ya athuri. In kikuyu custom, the girl is worth 100 goats - you huggle on the price for each. thisi is "escorted" with a durume/ thenge ya muthee, a gourd of oke (honey or beer) murengeti wa nyina, including some other stuff. and in the kikuyu custom ruracio rutithiraga. dowry never ends ( paying up all dowry is taken to be an insult to the girls family even if you can afford it! and one more thing ruracio ruticokaio. if the girls family asked for less than you had carried, then you have also to surrender the surplus! i learnt it the hard way!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/19/2007 Posts: 2,047
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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mozenrat wrote:mukiha wrote:from her name, I figure that she is a Kikuyu. In the Kikuyu tradition, bride price is a fixed number of goats in your respective clan...
Negotiations centre around the cash value per goat and how many goats will be acceptable as the first installment. The total number is NOT NEGOTIABLE!
In addition, the negotiations are between parents - the marrying children are not involved. That is when a man is marrying his first wife. For any subsequent wife, the husband to be negotiates directly with the girls parents.... in her absence.
So this girl has got it all wrong; her parents might just decide to give her away with a first installment of two goats...about 10k Mukiha, I don't think this is entirely accurate.The Northern Kikuyu usually asked for 30 to 40 goats (or 3-4 cows) but the Southern Kikuyu were expensive (80 to 100 goats exclusive of other requisites). The actual dowry (kuracia kana gutarirwo mirongo) was enumerated in accordance with the number that the bride's father had paid for her mother giving rise to a constant figure over the generations within a clan giving the impression that the prices was fixed. The fact is, though that the woman was nothing more than a commodity and could even be mortgaged for debt or used to pay a fine by her father. Nani hawa?  Why not just say the Kiambu/Kabete folk vs the Nyeri folk? Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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Someone on the nation blog has told her to marry her education since she is already engaged to it... Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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mozenrat wrote:
Mukiha, I don't think this is entirely accurate.The Northern Kikuyu usually asked for 30 to 40 goats (or 3-4 cows) but the Southern Kikuyu were expensive (80 to 100 goats exclusive of other requisites). The actual dowry (kuracia kana gutarirwo mirongo) was enumerated in accordance with the number that the bride's father had paid for her mother giving rise to a constant figure over the generations within a clan giving the impression that the prices was fixed. The fact is, though that the woman was nothing more than a commodity and could even be mortgaged for debt or used to pay a fine by her father.
This is the most consistent info I have heard over time from the "athuri". "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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