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Kampala Uganda Real Estate / Stocks 24th April - 1st May 2011
young
#1 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:27:48 PM
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In the heat of walk to work demos I made a scheduled family trip to Kampala.

Real Estate (Kakungulu Satelite City Entebbe Road)

I was to follow up to pick the title deed for our proposed mailo plot to be used as a vacation home to be build in future by the vendors Akright Projects Uganda.

We were able to get our sub-lease docs and we were happy at the pace of development in some parts of the estate like some parts were tarmarked, more physical development, and a fully built golf course by Orient bank of Uganda.
The going price of 100 by 50 ft plot is 16M UGX , we bought at 12M UGX in early 2010. The sharp price appreciation is attributed to re-sellers / speculators as Akright Projects the vendors have fully sold out.


Uganda Stocks Investment

We opened a CDS account with African Alliance located in Workers House CBD and we bought the following.

SBU at 275 UGx
NVL AT 640 UGx
NIC AT 70 Ugx
DFCU AT 1000 Ugx

The good news so far is that nvl is now 983 Ugx , post 1:1 bonus SBU is 170 (Invariably 340) UGX cum 7 UGX dividend, NIC is static at 70 UGX,
and DFCU static at 1000 Ugx.
My investment objective is for very long term with dividend yield in mind.


Special thanks to @Njung'e for recommending Entebbe road as the best choice for our plot and my friend @Pkoli for recommending AA Uganda and giving me contact people that made the CDS account opening smooth.
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Hunderwear
#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:26:35 PM
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Wow nice report...I also got some SBU I bought before automation and am made to understand that the bonus shares wil only be sent to CDS account which am yet to hav.How about giving me some advice on how to open the account
young
#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:34:20 PM
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Hunderwear wrote:
Wow nice report...I also got some SBU I bought before automation and am made to understand that the bonus shares wil only be sent to CDS account which am yet to hav.How about giving me some advice on how to open the account

The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
young
#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:36:32 PM
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Hunderwear wrote:
Wow nice report...I also got some SBU I bought before automation and am made to understand that the bonus shares wil only be sent to CDS account which am yet to hav.How about giving me some advice on how to open the account



Since (I assume) you are based in Kenya, you can open a CDS account with Dyer & Blair (Kenya) or African Alliance (Kenya). You do not need to travel to Kampala.

Your dividend check will be convered from the big UGX to the tiny Ksh. Most Kenya banks do that.

Invariably you have no problems, but without CDS account you cannot get your SBU bonus as they have stopped producing paper certificates as a policy.
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Hunderwear
#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:34:26 PM
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Thanx young wil pay one of them a visit
VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:05:15 PM
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@young - I like AA Uganda as well. If you are in Kenya 5-6 September there is an Investor Conference. Talk to your AA rep.

BTW, since you are probably a $ investor, the UGX has dropped from 1,800 to 2,450 in the short span! Losses abound [for me too] in forex [hard currencies] even though in UGX look good!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
young
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 1:44:56 AM
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Thanks Bwana VVS,

But let me restate that :-

(i) The trigger for us to invest in Uganda is borne out of neccesity, our choice of owning a retirement home there makes it mandatory to invest in dividend yielding Uganda stocks as we are strong believers in equity investment.


(ii) We are looking on the very long term because we are aware that Uganda bourse for now is a shallow market.We do not have immediate plans to repartriate gains in local currency. We are more interested in dividends to accumulate to re-nvest or to cover our living expenses during retirement.


(iii) In African markets in general we have factored in downward currency fluctuations to the disadvantage of African currencies, hence the long term objective.


(iv) Luckily (not deliberately) we exchanged 1 US$ for 2380 UGX in late April 2011 not 1800 you mentioned. It is at the moment circa 2450 Ugx to 1 US dollar.

(vi) As far as we are concerned Stocks and real estate (in any form) are siamese twins. We started with real estate (strictly for accomodation) as Uganda was more affordable than Kenya on the chosen location and invariably investing in stocks in Uganda became a neccesity.

(vii) Weakening of most African currencies is not peculiar to Uganda, look at Kenya, Ghana and my native Nigeria, the story is the same.

This is purely our decision....different strokes for different folks !!!

Regards
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Cde Monomotapa
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:33:35 AM
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@young..I am glad that u r thinking long about USE & thus allow me share my views on the same. I hold SBU too ever since the IPO in 07 with no intentions to sell/profit inspite of the 500% growth currently & numerous generous dividends already consumed & most recent 1:1 bonus. To me, SBU is the most direct route to UG's nearing petro$ economy via a business I have come to understand, banking. SBU is the most dominant player in UG thus, I expect it to handle the bulk of the oil economy & resultant economic expansion from retail to corporate level. The most immediate gain I expect is the strengthening of the UGX as a result of an improvement in their BoP (Balance of Payments) if not a surplus! That should technically boost the worth of my holdings on conversion to Kes. I am a longterm bull on UG & with the right amount of patience we shall be a lot more wealthier!
young
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:02:14 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@young..I am glad that u r thinking long about USE & thus allow me share my views on the same. I hold SBU too ever since the IPO in 07 with no intentions to sell/profit inspite of the 500% growth currently & numerous generous dividends already consumed & most recent 1:1 bonus. To me, SBU is the most direct route to UG's nearing petro$ economy via a business I have come to understand, banking. SBU is the most dominant player in UG thus, I expect it to handle the bulk of the oil economy & resultant economic expansion from retail to corporate level. The most immediate gain I expect is the strengthening of the UGX as a result of an improvement in their BoP (Balance of Payments) if not a surplus! That should technically boost the worth of my holdings on conversion to Kes. I am a longterm bull on UG & with the right amount of patience we shall be a lot more wealthier!

The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:08:24 PM
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@young - UGX at 2,500

BTW, [a personal question if you choose to answer] why would you want to retire in Kampala/Uganda rather than closer 'home'?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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