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guru267
#21 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2011 2:54:24 PM
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One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..
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the deal
#22 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:54:44 PM
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guru267 wrote:
One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..

There is no recession @Hisah is an alarmist.smile
guru267
#23 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:36:53 PM
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the deal wrote:
guru267 wrote:
One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..

There is no recession @Hisah is an alarmist.smile


@the deal he is no alarmist.. If greece defaults this month we will see a recession worse than the housing one.. The NSE will crumble before your veey eyes
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sparkly
#24 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 5:00:51 PM
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guru267 wrote:
the deal wrote:
guru267 wrote:
One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..

There is no recession @Hisah is an alarmist.smile


@the deal he is no alarmist.. If greece defaults this month we will see a recession worse than the housing one.. The NSE will crumble before your veey eyes


@Guru recession kitu gani? Greece is just a blip on the global economy.
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guru267
#25 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:05:05 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
the deal wrote:
guru267 wrote:
One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..

There is no recession @Hisah is an alarmist.smile


@the deal he is no alarmist.. If greece defaults this month we will see a recession worse than the housing one.. The NSE will crumble before your veey eyes


@Guru recession kitu gani? Greece is just a blip on the global economy.


Ive got only one word for you @sparkly
"CONTAGION"
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
erifloss
#26 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:26:59 PM
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sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
the deal wrote:
guru267 wrote:
One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..

There is no recession @Hisah is an alarmist.smile


@the deal he is no alarmist.. If greece defaults this month we will see a recession worse than the housing one.. The NSE will crumble before your veey eyes


@Guru recession kitu gani? Greece is just a blip on the global economy.

@sparkly, if the fall of a mere company(Lehmann) helped cause a recession what do you think will happen if a country goes under? That coupled with our unstable shilling, a beckoning election, high oil prices & a central bank that isn't reacting, how do you think foreign investors will react? They are the guys we mostly sell to at a premium!
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
craig
#27 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:29:11 PM
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greece defaulting might be quite nasty..especially for europe; and if europe sneezes, africa...
guru267
#28 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 7:52:44 PM
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craig wrote:
greece defaulting might be quite nasty..especially for europe; and if europe sneezes, africa...

We must prepare...
I personally have been loading up on Ausi dollars like crazy...
Its rallied against the kenya shillin from 67 to 98 currently.. It will continue to follow gold up smile
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
hisah
#29 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:01:53 PM
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@deal - what do you mean alarmist... I'd rather you present facts than name calling...

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/recession.asp - by Q3 2011 the KE GDP growth figures and revisions downwards will say it all... Thus the recession.

Now since you come from Namibia if my memory is correct, the 2011 GDP estimate is 4.8% and public debt as a GDP ratio 2011 estimate is 24.6%. Quite impressive than the KE economy thus Namibia looks more bullish.

As @guru has stated, if Greece goes belly up or any of the PIIGS (which they will based on the available data), we will be faced with a global recession yet again due to the contagion. As a point of reference for you watch how the Namibian Dollar (NAD) handles the USDNAD level at 7.05 - 7.10. Above this zone will present a test of 7.40 - 7.50 levels and inflation will start to spike. If the Greece or PIIGS default is disorderly (likely) the USDNAD can shoot above 8.0 despite the US too facing a default!? (The dollar crunch). At those levels risky asset class in Namibia will not be the place to be... Also note that a number of big econs have already cut back their 2011 GDP estimates from Eurozone, US, Japan and Australia. As for the BRIC, their 2011 Q1 GDP estimate also missed estimates. Therefore, as long as both the major and emerging economies are contracting, frontier markets too will shrink. All this info is available on the internet. Since the China boom was what was sold as the recovery saviour, well this saviour is not working fine... This chinese chip together with those eurozone defaults will take us down. So prepare for this eventuality. If this event can be avoided (a miracle) then all markets will go back to their happy moods smile


http://www.forexpros.com...s/usd-nad-advanced-chart
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
the deal
#30 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:08:45 PM
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@Hisah my apologies to you...mad respect for you...look in the other thread...in fact do you have linkedin profile I would recommend you to my people.
guru267
#31 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:13:54 PM
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On june 30th:
greece defaults + US fails to raise debt ceiling = financial armagedon
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
youcan'tstopusnow
#32 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 11:47:06 PM
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guru267 wrote:
On june 30th:
greece defaults + US fails to raise debt ceiling = financial armagedon

If you are anticipating all of this, are you then 100 p.c cash at the moment?
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guru267
#33 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 12:00:42 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru267 wrote:
On june 30th:
greece defaults + US fails to raise debt ceiling = financial armagedon

If you are anticipating all of this, are you then 100 p.c cash at the moment?

@youcant nothing is 100% certain..
So i'm 70% in cash until these issues are sorted out the 30% is in jubilee..

Of this 70% in cash 30% is in ausi dollars 30% in kenya shillings and 40% in bonds...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
youcan'tstopusnow
#34 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 12:09:41 AM
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guru267 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru267 wrote:
On june 30th:
greece defaults + US fails to raise debt ceiling = financial armagedon

If you are anticipating all of this, are you then 100 p.c cash at the moment?

@youcant nothing is 100% certain..
So i'm 70% in cash until these issues are sorted out the 30% is in jubilee..

Of this 70% in cash 30% is in ausi dollars 30% in kenya shillings and 40% in bonds...

Damn, girl! You already cashed out of Uchumi? That was fast! We ndio unajua.
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
guru267
#35 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 12:30:29 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru267 wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
guru267 wrote:
On june 30th:
greece defaults + US fails to raise debt ceiling = financial armagedon

If you are anticipating all of this, are you then 100 p.c cash at the moment?

@youcant nothing is 100% certain..
So i'm 70% in cash until these issues are sorted out the 30% is in jubilee..

Of this 70% in cash 30% is in ausi dollars 30% in kenya shillings and 40% in bonds...

Damn, girl! You already cashed out of Uchumi? That was fast! We ndio unajua.


I bought uchumi @ 11 and sold @13.25 a week or so lata. Only a fool wouldnt sell their speculative plays faced with such a scenario as the current one in Europe & US..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Aguytrying
#36 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 8:12:11 AM
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@guru. When did you sell diamond trust and kplc? I rem you had those as well.
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hisah
#37 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 11:40:15 PM
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the deal wrote:
@Hisah my apologies to you...mad respect for you...look in the other thread...in fact do you have linkedin profile I would recommend you to my people.


Apology accepted smile

No, I dont have that profile nor a tweeter, nor a facebook profile. I prefer to remain anonymous.

And your people wouldn't hire me for I lack the papers & qualifications smile

It is quite interesting that the rich folks didn't go to school or are school dropouts?!

It is quite interesting that global economists have done a good job with all their qualifications...

It is quite interesting global rating agencies are so on time to see the system melt up... With all their CFAs, economists, analysts etc they're always late to the crash party...

It is quite interesting to see how well IMF/World Bank have helped nations esp 3rd world nations to get out of debt & prosper...

It is quite interesting how gubberments pretend to fail when the hens wake up. The shock syndrome always works well to scare the hens back into the hen house. And the fox restarts the game again...

It is quite interesting to see how law firms & global banks profiteer from nations' bankruptcies.

And so forth...

Why do we hens support such systems...

Learn to be a fox in order to profit... Doesn't sound right...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
QW25071985
#38 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:01:14 AM
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erifloss wrote:
sparkly wrote:
guru267 wrote:
the deal wrote:
guru267 wrote:
One needs a recession proof company in their portfolio in these uncertain years. KPLC in its current state will continue to announce positive profit growth until the day we die come recession or boom...
KPLC will also continue paying out a 48-52% of PAT to shareholders. That also guarantees dividend growth every year which I can sit on for years..

The tarriff review will be set to boost their ROA which assets have been growing.. This is the gem of the industrial sector..

There is no recession @Hisah is an alarmist.smile


@the deal he is no alarmist.. If greece defaults this month we will see a recession worse than the housing one.. The NSE will crumble before your veey eyes


@Guru recession kitu gani? Greece is just a blip on the global economy.

@sparkly, if the fall of a mere company(Lehmann) helped cause a recession what do you think will happen if a country goes under? That coupled with our unstable shilling, a beckoning election, high oil prices & a central bank that isn't reacting, how do you think foreign investors will react? They are the guys we mostly sell to at a premium!



@ sparlky we maynot be all cut out to be economists but the whole world right now is watching the Greece and u.s debt crisis.if Greece defaults on its debt the whole of the euro zone will come crumbling down causing a chain reaction around the world...
Bytheway there's somebody who also thinks the same as i

http://www.ibtimes.com/a...rigger-u-s-recession.htm
bomboclat
#39 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:41:24 AM
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@ The deal and Sparkly.
If Greece defaults, the rest of the world will be in a shit hole like never before and when this happens, the people of Greek would be pretty scared and will eventually start pulling all of their cash from banks and as a result, the government will implement a bank holiday, just the same way they did in America and as a result the banks will be nationalized. Now, for those who lent Greece money in Europe (as in the European banks), they will be affected by Greece since they are incurring nothing but a loss and as a result, there will be massive credit defaults, then banks all over the world refuse to lend credit to each other for they are fearing that it wouldn’t be honored unless they put up their assets as collateral. Now, in the U.S, since they are used to relying on short term debt, there will be major capital shortfalls since the European banks can’t/wouldn’t be able to produce the commercial paper. As for many other countries that have been burdened by debt, they may or might follow Greece in terms of defaulting. And it just continues getting worse because if these countries in Europe default, then the European Central Bank goes bankrupt. For those countries that are strong financially, any bailout they may hand out to Greece will be faced with stiff opposition because people are of the notion that Greece’s business is Greece’s business, so why should a country like France or Germany sort them out. Come back to America, Americans are used to spending, not saving and the news that Greece defaulted, no more commercial paper coming from European Central Bank will mean that they (Americans) will resort to saving their money more and more instead of spending it hence back to a recession even though they are not fully out of the woods yet. As of France and Germany, if they are forced to bail out Greece and other European countries that are about to default, then, there would no more free trade in that they will impose tariffs on imported goods and restrictive quotas from other foreign countries and we all know who will be affected: Asian economy. So, now we have the Americans hoarding their money will the some European countries become protectionist and that s when Asian economy especially that of China starts showing cracks on its walls. If Greece defaults, then the American congress won’t hesitate to raise the debt ceiling for government spending.
And that’s how Greece is so important in all of this charade.
the deal
#40 Posted : Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:55:38 AM
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Greece wont default...they will come up with something but the Sh will continue to weaken.
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