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Mumias yawa surely!
VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 12:33:01 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
Sasha wrote:
@Genghis Khan: Noted, and I would expect Mumias to capitalise on this venture to restructure the market and effectively drive out the small competition there still is!

or buy them out...

Mumias has been after Nzoia... not the machinery but the sugar fields!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Genghis Khan
#42 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 1:20:02 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Genghis Khan wrote:
Sasha wrote:
@Genghis Khan: Noted, and I would expect Mumias to capitalise on this venture to restructure the market and effectively drive out the small competition there still is!

or buy them out...

Mumias has been after Nzoia... not the machinery but the sugar fields!


Whats the arrangement currently? what are they after... the small scale farmers (to supply) or fields owned by Nzoia itself? This means to close down the factory?

I hear there is a law that prohibits any entity from putting up a factory within a certain radius of another factory...
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youcan'tstopusnow
#43 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 6:54:44 PM
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The thread should then be changed to, "Mumias, yipee!"
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VituVingiSana
#44 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 8:19:48 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:

Whats the arrangement currently? what are they after... the small scale farmers (to supply) or fields owned by Nzoia itself? This means to close down the factory?
Both the nucleus estate + the out-growers
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
For Sport
#45 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2011 9:49:32 PM
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http://allafrica.com/stories/201106151199.html
“A consumer lobby group has cautiously welcomed the production of sugar fortified with Vitamin A but said more information should be made public.
The Consumer Federation of Kenya (Cofek) Tuesday termed the decision by Mumias Sugar to launch fortified sugar as "premature" because there is inadequate information concerning Vitamin A deficiency.
"While food fortification with Vitamin A is most cost-effective, it must be guided by some principles, standards, procedures and irreducible minimum factors," Cofek said in a statement.
On Tuesday, some dieticians warned that nutrient was being put in inappropriate place.
"Refined sugar has no nutritive value apart from more calories. If this is not put forward appropriately to the consumers, we may see an increased consumption of sugar which is detrimental to health," said Susan Musilu-Thinji of Bonsana Nutritions and Wellness.
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However, cofek demanded that Mumias Sugar reveals the source of the nutrient and that the company documents the deficiency scale in the country.”

I find the idea that people would increase their consumption of sugar becuase it has vitamin A or vitamin whatever laughable. And who said it was the role of MSC to document the deficiency scale? When milk producers started producing and marketing low fat milk, were they asked to document the obesity scale?
guru267
#46 Posted : Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:06:00 PM
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Sasha wrote:
@Genghis Khan: Market penetration? Not really! People who do not take sugar will not starting taking it because it now

@sasha they are targeting those of us who take sugar but are guilty about it.. All these will run to this brand with open arms..
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Genghis Khan
#47 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2011 10:28:22 AM
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For Sport wrote:
http://allafrica.com/stories/201106151199.html
“A consumer lobby group has cautiously welcomed the production of sugar fortified with Vitamin A but said more information should be made public.
The Consumer Federation of Kenya (Cofek) Tuesday termed the decision by Mumias Sugar to launch fortified sugar as "premature" because there is inadequate information concerning Vitamin A deficiency.
"While food fortification with Vitamin A is most cost-effective, it must be guided by some principles, standards, procedures and irreducible minimum factors," Cofek said in a statement.
On Tuesday, some dieticians warned that nutrient was being put in inappropriate place.
"Refined sugar has no nutritive value apart from more calories. If this is not put forward appropriately to the consumers, we may see an increased consumption of sugar which is detrimental to health," said Susan Musilu-Thinji of Bonsana Nutritions and Wellness.
....................................
However, cofek demanded that Mumias Sugar reveals the source of the nutrient and that the company documents the deficiency scale in the country.”

I find the idea that people would increase their consumption of sugar becuase it has vitamin A or vitamin whatever laughable. And who said it was the role of MSC to document the deficiency scale? When milk producers started producing and marketing low fat milk, were they asked to document the obesity scale?


I totally agree, such an argument doesn't fly with me. These "Bosana" & COFEK people are either ignorant, irresponsible or harbor covert agendums... we should ignore them or shut them up...

It's like saying we shouldn't sell Unleaded Premium (which is easier on the environment) because it will mislead people into believing Petroleum is good, making them use MORE fuel thus harming the environment MORE!!!

Fuzzy Logic!!
Just STUPID!
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lovely2010
#48 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 12:56:10 PM
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sukari inazidi kuwa UCHUNGU...God!!!
Genghis Khan
#49 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:03:18 PM
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lovely2010 wrote:
sukari inazidi kuwa UCHUNGU...God!!!

Shut your eyes tight and keep buying...
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
Njung'e
#50 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:09:06 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
lovely2010 wrote:
sukari inazidi kuwa UCHUNGU...God!!!

Shut your eyes tight and keep buying...


@Khan,
They are likey to get cane from Nzoia upto mid Sept,which would make the first half not as byad as i had predicted but still,i would have to be made of solid wood to follow yousmile
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youcan'tstopusnow
#51 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 7:18:06 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Genghis Khan wrote:
lovely2010 wrote:
sukari inazidi kuwa UCHUNGU...God!!!

Shut your eyes tight and keep buying...


@Khan,
They are likey to get cane from Nzoia upto mid Sept,which would make the first half not as byad as i had predicted but still,i would have to be made of solid wood to follow yousmile

Njung'e, does Nzoia receive more cane from farmers than Mumias? And are they unable to utilise all of it, causing them to be willing to sell to a competitor?
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jerry
#52 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2011 8:42:10 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Genghis Khan wrote:
lovely2010 wrote:
sukari inazidi kuwa UCHUNGU...God!!!

Shut your eyes tight and keep buying...


@Khan,
They are likey to get cane from Nzoia upto mid Sept,which would make the first half not as byad as i had predicted but still,i would have to be made of solid wood to follow yousmile

Njung'e, does Nzoia receive more cane from farmers than Mumias? And are they unable to utilise all of it, causing them to be willing to sell to a competitor?

=> probably Nzoia could be closing for maintenance!
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
selah
#53 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:58:49 AM
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I think this company needs a fresh and a proactive CEO whose reaction time is above average.

Few months to the end of The comesa deadline and the company is inefficient and ineffective, even Kenya power is blaming it on the current power short fall...which literary means MUMIAS SUGAR IS INCAPABLE OF MEETING DEMAND.

The reason given are always the same year in year out...the company is producing below capacity because of rain and inaccessible roads...NKT.

Just last month I went to the supermarket and bought Mumias sugar @210/- per 2kg,yesterday I went to buy the same sugar it was 250/- per 2Kg. We always say safaricom is conning us but Mumias sugar is definitely Mugging Us.

The inconsistent pricing show a company that has no plan and only survive because of its loyal base.

http://www.businessdaily...tem/0/-/159tjp1z/-/inde

'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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#54 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:20:36 PM
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Also feeling the heat today from inability to supply electricity to KPLC.
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#55 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:44:25 PM
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selah wrote:
I think this company needs a fresh and a proactive CEO whose reaction time is above average.

Few months to the end of The comesa deadline and the company is inefficient and ineffective, even Kenya power is blaming it on the current power short fall...which literary means MUMIAS SUGAR IS INCAPABLE OF MEETING DEMAND.

The reason given are always the same year in year out...the company is producing below capacity because of rain and inaccessible roads...NKT.

Just last month I went to the supermarket and bought Mumias sugar @210/- per 2kg,yesterday I went to buy the same sugar it was 250/- per 2Kg. We always say safaricom is conning us but Mumias sugar is definitely Mugging Us.

The inconsistent pricing show a company that has no plan and only survive because of its loyal base.

http://www.businessdaily...tem/0/-/159tjp1z/-/inde



I don't quote Buffet, but am told the guy loves companies that are able to increase prices and pass them over to consumers effortlessly
selah
#56 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:05:16 PM
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@gathiga yeah that true for a company that claim to be a monopoly, but mumias will face severe competition come early next year ,its erratic pricing will make its loyal customers waiver due to resentment caused by its inefficient supply chain that is prone to speculators.

Furthermore its inability to embrace technologies that limit uncertainties in the supply of its raw material as well as streamlining its supply chain might actually hurt it once private suppliers enter its market next yr.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Magnetic Touch
#57 Posted : Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:09:12 PM
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gathinga wrote:
I don't quote Buffet, but am told the guy loves companies that are able to increase prices and pass them over to consumers effortlessly

It is not Mumias making the money. It is the distributors who rumour has it are linked with insiders.

And even if the price is high, they dont have the product. What is the use of a high price if you have got nothing or little to sell?
2012
#58 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:53:53 PM
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How can Mumias, a traded company holding shareholders expectations not have the one and only thing they sell available in the market???
What would happen if Safaricom switched off for one week to service their whatevers??? Do they know about this comesa thingy coming up from 2012?

BBI will solve it
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#59 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 5:58:34 PM
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watch out for 3.50 price level ALL TIME LOW. we are headed there . thank God i never bought at 6 bob..
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#60 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:12:05 PM
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Will this share pull an everedy on us? I am worried for the shareholders.
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