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Mumias yawa surely!
gatoho
#21 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 4:48:01 PM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
VitA, no harm done!



Pardon my Ignorance but who is Genghis Khan? i saw a contest where people were to win tickets for him and was like, That Wazua guy?
Foresight..
2012
#22 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 4:59:31 PM
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selah wrote:
Anyway as @VVS said if you were given sugar which is not fortified with vitamins and Mumias fortified with vit.A Which would you rather buy?


I'd buy the one that makes my tea sweet and for that purpose only, the vitamins and nutrients nitajisort. It will take long to convince me about healthy sugar, next they'll add vitamin C like everyone else yaani even body lotions have vitamin C. This sounds like Kimbo cooking fat which has 0.00% calories.

BBI will solve it
:)
DtheK
#23 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 5:04:44 PM
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@sela it's called hypoglycaemia,if you get it you are diabetic.It is I think the most dangerous effect of diabetes
VVS is right if everybody is selling plain sugar including supermarket brands-
price of different sugar brands then it is a good thing for Mumias
VituVingiSana
#24 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 12:29:44 AM
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I was told Mumias sugar + Vit A sugar will retail at 10/- LESS than kawaida sugar...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Cde Monomotapa
#25 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:42:39 AM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
nostoppingthis wrote:
selah wrote:
@2012 Too much of anything is dangerous you are not being asked to consume more of mumias sugar just your normal dosage and this time round it has vitamins to hell you see better.

I dont know whats wrong with making a product more healthier than what were are used to.

Mind you if you abstained from taking sugar a doctor might advice you to take it ...its unhealthy.


Now that this is on matters health, is too much mboga dangerous?



4 THINGS YOU CANNOT HAVE TOO MUCH OF
(I stand ready to be corrected)

1. Vegetables (not fruits)
2. Fish
3. Laughter
4. Sex

more no.4, sex! Yes! Yes! Yes! (Atwoli style)
Njung'e
#26 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 1:22:15 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I was told Mumias sugar + Vit A sugar will retail at 10/- LESS than kawaida sugar...


FACT!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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#27 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2011 4:14:37 PM
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Is it just me who feels they really miss Kathleen Kihanya?
Genghis Khan
#28 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 1:21:53 PM
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gatoho wrote:
Genghis Khan wrote:
VitA, no harm done!



Pardon my Ignorance but who is Genghis Khan? i saw a contest where people were to win tickets for him and was like, That Wazua guy?


Laughing out loudly
Your ignorance is pardoned...

My name is Genghis Khan because I don't want you to know my name... actually your ignorance is appreciatedsmile
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VituVingiSana
#29 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:47:48 PM
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Leo... Nakumatt:

Kawaida sukari Mumias 95/- for 1 kg
Mumias sukari + Vit A = 180/- for 2 kgs
Kaboros sukari = 190/- for 2 kgs

Guess which one I bought?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Genghis Khan
#30 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 8:10:23 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... Nakumatt:

Kawaida sukari Mumias 95/- for 1 kg
Mumias sukari + Vit A = 180/- for 2 kgs
Kaboros sukari = 190/- for 2 kgs

Guess which one I bought?


Kaboros... because you hate the taste of carrots in your tea Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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mukiha
#31 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 9:54:53 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
@ 2012. you have along way to go. maybe it because we all cannot be health experts can we.anyway the raw sugar that we take is devoid of all vitamins.do you know what that means ???it means upon intake the vitamins that are supposed to break it down come from the body and thus get depleted as they have to be used to process the raw sugar.
If sugar consumption is continued, an over-acid condition results, and more minerals are needed from deep in the body to correct the imbalance. If the body is lacking the nutrients used to metabolize sugar, it will not be able to properly handle and rid itself of the poisonous residues.
These wastes accumulate through the brain and nervous system, which speeds up cellular death. The bloodstream becomes over-loaded with waste products and symptoms of carbonic poisoning result.

in conclusion by adding these vitamins the body is able to store its own vitamins and uses the vitamins in the sugar to process the sugar.

ITS A WIN SITUATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are not serious!

Did you attend any biology classes? Vitamins to break down sugar? Body storing vitamins?

These two glaring errors makes everything else in your argument/explanation complete nonsense.
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#32 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 10:01:29 AM
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McReggae wrote:
http://www.mostproject.org/PDF/2final.pdf

This document explains the logic very clearly in the "Forward":

"In many countries, vitamin A deficiency is a widespread problem that is not necessarily limited to specific groups of people or isolated communities. Among the interventions available, food fortification is an accepted method of delivering micronutrients to the population at large and is widely practiced in developed countries. In these countries, foods such as milk powder, butter and margarine, complementary infant foods, and breakfast cereals are routinely fortified with micronutrients, including vitamin A. The above foods, however, are not regularly consumed by the vast majority of the population in developing countries, especially among those at greatest risk of vitamin A deficiency. One food that is consumed by nearly the entire population in developing countries is sugar, which can be fortified with vitamin A. Sugar fortification is practical because target populations do not need to alter or adapt a new or costly distribution system. Indeed, sugar fortification only requires the existence of a well-established sugar production and marketing system. This allows for the uniform addition of vitamin A as well as the monitoring of its content. Fortification of sugar with vitamin A is one of the safest, most efficacious, and most cost-effective interventions to prevent and control vitamin A deficiency."

Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
McReggae
#33 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 10:06:17 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... Nakumatt:

Kawaida sukari Mumias 95/- for 1 kg
Mumias sukari + Vit A = 180/- for 2 kgs
Kaboros sukari = 190/- for 2 kgs

Guess which one I bought?


....somebody tell me why this sugar is cheaper??????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Genghis Khan
#34 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 11:11:58 AM
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McReggae wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... Nakumatt:

Kawaida sukari Mumias 95/- for 1 kg
Mumias sukari + Vit A = 180/- for 2 kgs
Kaboros sukari = 190/- for 2 kgs

Guess which one I bought?


....somebody tell me why this sugar is cheaper??????


Market Penetration Strategy???

Maybe a subsidy from the venture partner?

I certainly do not think its cheaper to produce...
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 11:30:27 AM
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Genghis Khan wrote:
McReggae wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... Nakumatt:

Kawaida sukari Mumias 95/- for 1 kg
Mumias sukari + Vit A = 180/- for 2 kgs
Kaboros sukari = 190/- for 2 kgs

Guess which one I bought?


....somebody tell me why this sugar is cheaper??????


Market Penetration Strategy???

Maybe a subsidy from the venture partner?

I certainly do not think its cheaper to produce.

1) Market Penetration Strategy???
Folks buy this vs other folks sugar. Builds a name/brand.

Maybe a subsidy from the venture partner?
Probably a subsidy from UN?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Sasha
#36 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 11:44:49 AM
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@Genghis Khan: Market penetration? Not really! People who do not take sugar will not starting taking it because it now has Vitamin A. Which other market would they be targeting?

Subsidy? Probably, seeing as the UN is involved. Possibly, the UN has provided the additives and footed the increased cost of fortification with Vitamin A. The UN may have also handed over an element of the funds budgeted for the dissemination of Vitamin A to Mumias thus reducing the shelf-price! Possibly! Probably!
Genghis Khan
#37 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 11:59:31 AM
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Sasha wrote:
@Genghis Khan: Market penetration? Not really! People who do not take sugar will not starting taking it because it now has Vitamin A. Which other market would they be targeting? To get more people to embrace the product faster and recoup non variable costs of introducing the prodcut to market. Remember the new BlueBand? Same reason KK is giving discount. Not to CREATE new consumers but to PENETRATE existing market

Subsidy? Probably, seeing as the UN is involved. Possibly, the UN has provided the additives and footed the increased cost of fortification with Vitamin A. The UN may have also handed over an element of the funds budgeted for the dissemination of Vitamin A to Mumias thus reducing the shelf-price! Possibly! Probably!

"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
Genghis Khan
#38 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 12:03:52 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Genghis Khan wrote:
McReggae wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Leo... Nakumatt:

Kawaida sukari Mumias 95/- for 1 kg
Mumias sukari + Vit A = 180/- for 2 kgs
Kaboros sukari = 190/- for 2 kgs

Guess which one I bought?


....somebody tell me why this sugar is cheaper??????


Market Penetration Strategy???

Maybe a subsidy from the venture partner?

I certainly do not think its cheaper to produce.

1) Market Penetration Strategy???
Folks buy this vs other folks sugar. Builds a name/brand.

Maybe a subsidy from the venture partner?
Probably a subsidy from UN?


Yes Sir thats what I was thinking.

Now I'm thinking I want to buy the sugar, but what of the stock? Am one of those guys with large MSC, I've paid the price (unrealised losses)... have been considering doubling down...
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
Sasha
#39 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 12:16:43 PM
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@Genghis Khan: Noted, and I would expect Mumias to capitalise on this venture to restructure the market and effectively drive out the small competition there still is!
Genghis Khan
#40 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2011 12:29:01 PM
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Sasha wrote:
@Genghis Khan: Noted, and I would expect Mumias to capitalise on this venture to restructure the market and effectively drive out the small competition there still is!


or buy them out...
"I'd rather be lucky than clever... every time!" - ME
"The problem is not what we don't know... it's what we know for sure that just ain't!" - MARK TWAIN
"Space we can recover... time never!" - NAPOLEON BONAPARTE
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