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Mumias Healthy Sugar. Is this a joke?
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#1 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 9:33:04 AM
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Why shoot yourself in the foot? Really, really Mumias, sugar with vitamin A, really??
Sugar is sugar is sugar! Sugar and health is like water and oil! they just don't go. If I was Mumias sugar, I'd stick to selling sugar as a sweetener and not a health food. That's a big miss for Mumias and they should withdraw it. Speak of lack of innovation....

BBI will solve it
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Dash
#2 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 10:18:22 AM
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I work in the health sector and this is a big thumbs up for mumias. If you knew the high rate of children suffering from micronutrient deficiency includind children from urban areas you would be shocked. Vitamin A is extremely vital but lacking in many childrens diets alongside iron and zinc causing numerous ill symptoms. Infact, some countries, I dont know about Kenya, give companies that fortify there foods with micronutrients some tax cuts. Just google Kenya micronutrient survey then you will understand the benefits of fortifying foods.
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#3 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 10:37:54 AM
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#4 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 10:48:25 AM
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 11:07:32 AM
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I'll repeat it here.This is a project in collabo with a UN agency in an effort to get vital vitamins to the populace and what better way than to have them in sugar which is actually consumed by just about everybody.....ama waweke kwa Tusker?...Anyway,the target is mainly children and again,they will be fortifying about a tenth of their sugar and therefore consumers still have a choice......Now you know who is the joke....lol.
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#6 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 11:35:12 AM
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[quote=Dash]Applause Applause Applause
http://www.mostproject.org/PDF/2final.pdf[/quote]

And I thought this was just a gimmickApplause Applause
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#7 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 11:53:12 AM
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Quoting a publication from african journal of food, agriculture and nutritional development:

Micronutrient malnutrition, particularly vitamin A deficiency (VAD), iron deficiency anaemia, and iodine deficiency disorders (IDD) are major public health concerns.

The prevalence of Vitamin A Deficiency are 61.2% among children and 29.6% among mothers
Micronutrient deficiency has severe consequences namely stunted growth, blindness, reduce the human capacity to work, cause high maternal mortality, miscarriages and still-births in deficient mothers, just to name a few.

One Strategy to combat micronutrient deficiency in Kenya is:

Fortification

Today, fortification is increasingly recognized as a medium- to long-term strategy for improving micronutrient status in large populations in the third world countries . Despite its importance, it is a very costly venture thus the Kenyan government should give sufficient incentives to the industries that engage in food fortification programmes to stimulate active and sustained fortification.

Fortification is favored because it does not require dietary habit changes, can be implemented relatively quickly and is sustainable if managed well. Since in Kenya, most people use salt, sugar and flour, they will serve as perfect food vehicles to reach the vulnerable population
Euge
#8 Posted : Friday, June 10, 2011 10:52:36 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
I'll repeat it here.This is a project in collabo with a UN agency in an effort to get vital vitamins to the populace and what better way than to have them in sugar which is actually consumed by just about everybody.....ama waweke kwa Tusker?...Anyway,the target is mainly children and again,they will be fortifying about a tenth of their sugar and therefore consumers still have a choice......Now you know who is the joke....lol.


Did they have to use sugar? Shame on you Aaiiii. Kids will be addicted to sugar then how will they get out of the 'sweet' habit. They should have identified another product.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:02:15 AM
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Euge wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
I'll repeat it here.This is a project in collabo with a UN agency in an effort to get vital vitamins to the populace and what better way than to have them in sugar which is actually consumed by just about everybody.....ama waweke kwa Tusker?...Anyway,the target is mainly children and again,they will be fortifying about a tenth of their sugar and therefore consumers still have a choice......Now you know who is the joke....lol.


Did they have to use sugar? Shame on you Aaiiii. Kids will be addicted to sugar then how will they get out of the 'sweet' habit. They should have identified another product.



Exactly. The choice of sugar is not well informed. We all know that you cannot use sugar and health in the same sentence.

mukiha
#10 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:10:12 AM
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tassia wrote:
Euge wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
I'll repeat it here.This is a project in collabo with a UN agency in an effort to get vital vitamins to the populace and what better way than to have them in sugar which is actually consumed by just about everybody.....ama waweke kwa Tusker?...Anyway,the target is mainly children and again,they will be fortifying about a tenth of their sugar and therefore consumers still have a choice......Now you know who is the joke....lol.


Did they have to use sugar? Shame on you Aaiiii. Kids will be addicted to sugar then how will they get out of the 'sweet' habit. They should have identified another product.



Exactly. The choice of sugar is not well informed. We all know that you cannot use sugar and health in the same sentence.


@tassia & @Euge;
You are missing the point completely, the idea is not to encourage parents to give sugar to their kids; No!

The idea is that those that are already giving sugar will now have the added Vit A.

And it is NOT correct to say that "We all know that you cannot use sugar and health in the same sentence"

As was clearly explained in another thread, TOO MUCH sugar is unhealthy. In the same breath, complete lack of sugar is also unhealthy. You need it to supplement you body's energy... and now, fortified sugar, you will also get Vit A

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:24:58 AM
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It is Ok to fortify food, but i think the choice here is not good. Why not fortify jogoo,unga ya chapati,unga ya uji or even cereals??To me it feels like promoting a good thing with the wrong link........

A while a ago there was a proposal to fortify jogoo with folic acid to prevent neural tubal defects in newborns......i am not sure how this went but this is a better choice that fortifying sugar....my 2 cents.
tassia
#12 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:35:30 AM
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mukiha wrote:
tassia wrote:
Euge wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
I'll repeat it here.This is a project in collabo with a UN agency in an effort to get vital vitamins to the populace and what better way than to have them in sugar which is actually consumed by just about everybody.....ama waweke kwa Tusker?...Anyway,the target is mainly children and again,they will be fortifying about a tenth of their sugar and therefore consumers still have a choice......Now you know who is the joke....lol.


Did they have to use sugar? Shame on you Aaiiii. Kids will be addicted to sugar then how will they get out of the 'sweet' habit. They should have identified another product.



Exactly. The choice of sugar is not well informed. We all know that you cannot use sugar and health in the same sentence.


@tassia & @Euge;
You are missing the point completely, the idea is not to encourage parents to give sugar to their kids; No!

The idea is that those that are already giving sugar will now have the added Vit A.

And it is NOT correct to say that "We all know that you cannot use sugar and health in the same sentence"

As was clearly explained in another thread, TOO MUCH sugar is unhealthy. In the same breath, complete lack of sugar is also unhealthy. You need it to supplement you body's energy... and now, fortified sugar, you will also get Vit A



@Mukiha, Thanks

Lakini, what do you mean by this complete lack of sugar is also unhealthy. Do you mean sugar the sweetener? We all know that most foods have sugar. In fact, nutritionists discourage people from taking sugar (the sweetener). In fact, some people have been advised by doctors not to take sugar (the sweetener). This sugar is only for the mouth. I doubt anyone has ever gone to hospital and the doctor has prescribed sugar (the sweetener) because of a health condition.
selah
#13 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:39:42 AM
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famooz wrote:
It is Ok to fortify food, but i think the choice here is not good. Why not fortify jogoo,unga ya chapati,unga ya uji or even cereals??To me it feels like promoting a good thing with the wrong link........

A while a ago there was a proposal to fortify jogoo with folic acid to prevent neural tubal defects in newborns......i am not sure how this went but this is a better choice that fortifying sugar....my 2 cents.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly you just made me laugh Mumias is a sugar Miller, it has to do everything in its power to differentiate its product and remain competitive.

sifted unga is a simple carbohydrate the same as Mumias sugar as @Njung'e said its all a matter of choice you can still take the regular mumias sugar which is unfortified and a lil bit expensive than the fortified one.

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:40:44 AM
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famooz wrote:
It is Ok to fortify food, but i think the choice here is not good. Why not fortify jogoo,unga ya chapati,unga ya uji or even cereals??To me it feels like promoting a good thing with the wrong link........

A while a ago there was a proposal to fortify jogoo with folic acid to prevent neural tubal defects in newborns......i am not sure how this went but this is a better choice that fortifying sugar....my 2 cents.

Fortified versions of all the ones you have listed are already available in the market. Have you not seen "Jogoo Extra"?
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mukiha
#15 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:44:15 AM
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tassia wrote:


@Mukiha, Thanks

Lakini, what do you mean by this complete lack of sugar is also unhealthy. Do you mean sugar the sweetener? We all know that most foods have sugar. In fact, nutritionists discourage people from taking sugar (the sweetener). In fact, some people have been advised by doctors not to take sugar (the sweetener). This sugar is only for the mouth. I doubt anyone has ever gone to hospital and the doctor has prescribed sugar (the sweetener) because of a health condition.

Those advised not to take by doctors are the ones who take too much. the key phrase here is TOO MUCH.

And given the choice; would you prefer fortified or unfortified sugar?

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famooz
#16 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:52:33 AM
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mukiha wrote:
famooz wrote:
It is Ok to fortify food, but i think the choice here is not good. Why not fortify jogoo,unga ya chapati,unga ya uji or even cereals??To me it feels like promoting a good thing with the wrong link........

A while a ago there was a proposal to fortify jogoo with folic acid to prevent neural tubal defects in newborns......i am not sure how this went but this is a better choice that fortifying sugar....my 2 cents.

Fortified versions of all the ones you have listed are already available in the market. Have you not seen "Jogoo Extra"?


@ Mukiha,fortified with what?
mukiha
#17 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:56:26 AM
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famooz wrote:
mukiha wrote:
famooz wrote:
It is Ok to fortify food, but i think the choice here is not good. Why not fortify jogoo,unga ya chapati,unga ya uji or even cereals??To me it feels like promoting a good thing with the wrong link........

A while a ago there was a proposal to fortify jogoo with folic acid to prevent neural tubal defects in newborns......i am not sure how this went but this is a better choice that fortifying sugar....my 2 cents.

Fortified versions of all the ones you have listed are already available in the market. Have you not seen "Jogoo Extra"?


@ Mukiha,fortified with what?


You'll have to read the packets to find out. I don't use Jogoo so I have never read the details.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:04:09 AM
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Nairobi Water and S (censored) Company should also fortify their water and it better not be fortified with chalk dust.
tassia
#19 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:10:45 AM
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mukiha wrote:
tassia wrote:


@Mukiha, Thanks

Lakini, what do you mean by this complete lack of sugar is also unhealthy. Do you mean sugar the sweetener? We all know that most foods have sugar. In fact, nutritionists discourage people from taking sugar (the sweetener). In fact, some people have been advised by doctors not to take sugar (the sweetener). This sugar is only for the mouth. I doubt anyone has ever gone to hospital and the doctor has prescribed sugar (the sweetener) because of a health condition.

Those advised not to take by doctors are the ones who take too much. the key phrase here is TOO MUCH.

And given the choice; would you prefer fortified or unfortified sugar?



Hi Mukiha, if you love your family, encourage them to do away with this thing, whatever the fortification.

Please consider these links

http://www.naturalnews.com/022692.html

http://www.healingdaily....fication-diet/sugar.htm

http://www.rheumatic.org/sugar.htm

http://articles.mercola....4/20/sugar-dangers.aspx


selah
#20 Posted : Tuesday, June 14, 2011 11:37:25 AM
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so @tassia you are campaigning for healthy living through abstaining from sugar.No offence but I hav always taken regular sugar with no Vits. But since mumias Is offering a fortified sugar I will make sure I buy it bcoz of the vits.

While at it you can go ahead and tell people not to take fresh juice since its so sugary, fructose and sucrose is more or less the same.

As @Mukiha is saying Its better to take the little fortified sugar than the regular unfortified sugar.

Talk to any nutritionist they will tell you sugar in moderation is healthy and necessary in the body...Energy giving food.
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