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Education Policy Vis-a vis Personal Pension fund
raszag
#1 Posted : Monday, June 06, 2011 11:30:42 PM
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Hi Guys,

I was planning on taking an education policy for my 2 yr kid but having talked to a couple of guys the idea of opening a personal pension fund seems to be a better idea due a number of reasons...

Can the insurance experts @ wazua, articulate the pros & cons of the two policies/plans and advice on the best way of ensuring the child education security..

Cheers
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Gordon Gekko
#2 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2011 4:53:05 AM
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Completely different issues. One is for your child and the other for yourself. You need both.
mmarto
#3 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:41:48 AM
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seeing that the value of properties go up steeply in kenya, say over a 5year span, can i buy a plot(s) that will serve as an "education policy" for my kid. If i invest 400k in 2 quarter plots along the bypasses i am sure return on them 10 years from now is so much higher than what i will get than if i took an insurance education policy. ama?
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XSK
#4 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:50:47 AM
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mmarto wrote:
seeing that the value of properties go up steeply in kenya, say over a 5year span, can i buy a plot(s) that will serve as an "education policy" for my kid. If i invest 400k in 2 quarter plots along the bypasses i am sure return on them 10 years from now is so much higher than what i will get than if i took an insurance education policy. ama?


True mmarto, however along the course of life you may end up forgetting what it was meant for when you meet some challenges. In other words you may lose focus on the intention of buying it in the first place and finding yourself selling it to cover for other costs or consideration.
You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
RedStar
#5 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:41:15 PM
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Pension fund will give u periodic like monthly payouts in small dosage unlike education policy that will giv u a lumpsum. Pension is least best for education
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raszag
#6 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:41:40 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
Completely different issues. One is for your child and the other for yourself. You need both.



@ GG, I agree there are two different issues..But was looking at the private pension the same way you would buy land to 'secure' a child education policy as @ mmarto has said ..

I am particularly keen on pension coz it's accessible with no time limits of maturity and stringent conditions in case of 'early' withdrawal etc , there no penalties in case of defaulting on monthly contribution unlike the insurance policy where if you default before a certain number of years(2-3 yrs) then you can withdraw your money but with no interest


I basically need to know the merits of investing in an education policy vis-a-vis other ways of doing the same be in through pension etc..


Cheers
Hardwork, Smartness & Humility = Successful and Happy life...Jipange sasa hivi
raszag
#7 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:50:32 PM
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RedStar wrote:
Pension fund will give u periodic like monthly payouts in small dosage unlike education policy that will giv u a lumpsum. Pension is least best for education


@ Redstar, I stand to be corrected but I thought one can easily access one's pension in lumpsum as soon as they leave their employer or access their contribution in case of private pension..100% employee contribution and 50% employer contribution as per the new regulations...
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Ndaragwa
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:25:57 PM
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raszag wrote:
RedStar wrote:
Pension fund will give u periodic like monthly payouts in small dosage unlike education policy that will giv u a lumpsum. Pension is least best for education


@ Redstar, I stand to be corrected but I thought one can easily access one's pension in lumpsum as soon as they leave their employer or access their contribution in case of private pension..100% employee contribution and 50% employer contribution as per the new regulations...


Raszag, you are correct. You can access your pension contribution share 100% after leaving the employer plus 50% employer contribution; AND another 25% if you demonstrate real economic hardships (e.g., like need for money to address medication needs). Also, if you migrate out of the country (with evidence of immigrations), then you can get both your contribution plus employer contribution.
sanity
#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2011 10:42:34 PM
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XSK wrote:
mmarto wrote:
seeing that the value of properties go up steeply in kenya, say over a 5year span, can i buy a plot(s) that will serve as an "education policy" for my kid. If i invest 400k in 2 quarter plots along the bypasses i am sure return on them 10 years from now is so much higher than what i will get than if i took an insurance education policy. ama?


True mmarto, however along the course of life you may end up forgetting what it was meant for when you meet some challenges. In other words you may lose focus on the intention of buying it in the first place and finding yourself selling it to cover for other costs or consideration.


On the other hand ,as you grow older and wiser,you may decide to develop the plots,thus increasing their value and generating much more for your kids than the education policy could give.
Hope is not a strategy
mkonomtupu
#10 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2011 9:34:24 AM
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like GG said you need both but since i have not done an IPO I will limit to the pros and cons of pension
Personal pension fund-pros
1.you get to reduce the amount of income tax you pay if you don't exceed 20k per month.(i.e.taxable income=gross salary-pension contribution)
2. pension fund income is usually earns tax free interest
3. pension fund pay much better interest than education policy-Jubilee paid 12.75 for last year(usual rate 8%) on its personal pension fund
4. pension cannot be attached by your creditors
5. with pension no penalties for defaulting
Pension fund-cons
1.if you withdraw too early you lose the tax benefits-consult on this to get the income tax relief per year is 48k per year?
2. pension is long-term for your retirement-the early starters get the power of compound interest
Finally like i said it's not good idea to co-mingle funds but i would advise set up pension fund for your retirement and top up your normal contribution with the cash you want to save for the child and enjoy power of compound interest. Don't delay. Don't buy plots you will get too attached to sell
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