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Machakos-Nairobi-Nakuru Super Higway instead of Nairobi-Thika
mmarto
#1 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 9:47:01 AM
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Hi Wazuans,
I overheard a heated discussion amongst some people in town that the government should have first built the Machakos-Nairobi-Nakuru highway instead of the current Nairobi-Thika. The feeling is that the it has higher economic impact than the latter. Is that so?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:51:13 PM
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It is a yes and a no. Machakos-Nairobi-Nakuru highway has a greater impact since it is part of the northern corridor. All goods destined on transit & for export to Ug, Rwanda and Congo use this highway. But at the moment it does need much attention for the time being as compared to during Kanu regime (was recently recarpeted). The No is; Thika Rd needed attention since Nairobi population is moving away from the city centre. Thika Rd has rapidly mushrooming residential estates & massive expansion ie Kasarani, Zimmerman, Kahawa, Githurai etc. Thika Rd is the major highway being fed by roads frm all this estates not forgetting traffic from further on, as Muranga, Meru, Garissa, etc. My two cent opinion is: Machakos-Nairobi-Nakuru highway should have been expanded the same way as Thika Rd since we are heading to a massive traffic jam in that direction.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:57:06 PM
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@mmarto, it depends on who is in power. The question now is, if the central area is developed by the time the new constitution is fully functional, they will use the county money for other things, while the rest of Kenya uses it for making their roads..... It is sad that development of an area is pegged on who is in power hence our tribal inclinations!
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#4 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:15:06 PM
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Statistically, Nairobi Thika apparently (pre highway) has the highest concentration of vehicles in East and Central Africa (can't remember where I read that from).

I agree though that Machakos - Nakuru could have greater impact. However most of it is technically in place. Msa road after Nyayo stadium onwards to Machakos will be a 2+2 soon enough. Traffic reduces also after Athi. The other way, dual carriageway till Limuru is in place. Would be nice to have a longer stretch of 2+2 traffic (reducing accidents).

The real bottleneck is within Nairobi, and I think this will still affect the Nairobi - Thika highway.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:15:29 PM
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@mmarto, which is the busiest road/highway in the East n Central african region? Does the westlands-nakuru route really require an 8 lane superhighway? Is it affected by incessant traffic jams? Reminds me of one quite stupid pre-election promise by a certain party, that they will make the msa-nbi highway into a dual carriageway!! A road with a traffic density of less than 10 vehicles per km in a normal day.

That, in my view, is an extravagant idea for now, but may become a necessity in the future.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:20:12 PM
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Thika Road was dualised more than 25years ago upto Kenol. Machakos turn-off to Arthi is still uncertain. Arthi to City has just been done.

Lastly Southern bypass - Msa Road to Kikuyu should have been given priority over Northern or Eastern Bypasses which are almost complete. The transit trucks would not be clogging Uhuru and Waiyaki Ways.

simonkabz
#7 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:26:43 PM
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Looking 4wd to the day we will have overpasses on the 7 notorious roundabouts between Nyayo stadium n westlands (is the museum hill one gone?)
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#8 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 1:34:59 PM
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The technology city at machakos calls for world class highway,..i will try rao next year.
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#9 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:03:13 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Looking 4wd to the day we will have overpasses on the 7 notorious roundabouts between Nyayo stadium n westlands (is the museum hill one gone?)


Museum hill roundabout is almost gone. By the look of things, those Chinks will have it gone by August
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#10 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:05:14 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
@mmarto, it depends on who is in power. The question now is, if the central area is developed by the time the new constitution is fully functional, they will use the county money for other things, while the rest of Kenya uses it for making their roads..... It is sad that development of an area is pegged on who is in power hence our tribal inclinations!
@nostop, which part of the constitution says counties will do roads?
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#11 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:21:12 PM
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Aaaiii...Kwani Thika Superhighway belongs to central Bw. Nostop? I thought it serves most Nairobi Metropolitan residents, much of central, much of Eastern, entire NEP n parts of RV (Laikipia)....Infact RAO really campaigned 4this road (if at all that gives it more credibility)
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#12 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:35:26 PM
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I agree with Simonkabz, main problem is the 7 roundabouts between Nyayo and Westlands. Dualing the rest of the road from Mombasa to Kisumu is not a priority. While at it, do this southern bypass ASAP. I feel for Syokimau/Mlolongo/Athiriver/Kitengela residents - no hope until 2016 or thereabouts - assuming work starts next year.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:45:25 PM
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I think u should all leave this question to the technocrats! For expansion/augmentation of any infrastructure, there must be a need (except if you are MOI). In roads, need is based on traffic flow density and road conditions. Therefore, all those trying to tarnish the name of Kibaks, or whoever it is, are doomed to fail on this one!
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Kenyan Oracle
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:59:38 PM
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Let's just agree that Thika Rd project was long overdue, without the ethnic sentiments (came when Kibs yuko) thus the negative sentiments it's attracting. True it serves the whole of Eastern, NEP and Central. But if the 7 roundabouts were taken care of Jana, we wouldn't be complaining. Ama?
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nostoppingthis
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:05:04 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
Aaaiii...Kwani Thika Superhighway belongs to central Bw. Nostop? I thought it serves most Nairobi Metropolitan residents, much of central, much of Eastern, entire NEP n parts of RV (Laikipia)....Infact RAO really campaigned 4this road (if at all that gives it more credibility)

@Lolest...i hear you
@simonkabz...ABK!!! where does RAO come into this discussion???
Let us hope that the rest of the country will have their roads made. Infrastructure = development, trade within Central will skyrocket...did I hear someone mention that an airport will be moved next to Central region? This place is expanding rapidly...it is a good thing for the country, but I pray that other regions will be developed too...
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#16 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:36:24 PM
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If you are going to Ruiru and beyond, it has for some years now become customary to avoid the section between Muthaiga and Ruiru because of the traffic to Ruaraka, Zimmerman, Mwiki, Githurai and Kahawa. A journey to Thika take at least an hour and half on a good day instead of 30 minutes and 3 hrs on a public holiday. People bypass this section by going through Kiambu or using the eastern bypass. The traffic on this road is impossible.
2012
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 4:40:42 PM
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From Machakos to Nakuru the only traffic you'll experience is between City Cabanas and Westlands roundabout. So in my opinion, we don't need to expand the roads yet but complete the bypasses to Nakuru/Naivasha roads to ease congestion in Nairobi.

BBI will solve it
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Kenyan Oracle
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 4:52:54 PM
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2012 wrote:
From Machakos to Nakuru the only traffic you'll experience is between City Cabanas and Westlands roundabout. So in my opinion, we don't need to expand the roads yet but complete the bypasses to Nakuru/Naivasha roads to ease congestion in Nairobi.


@2012. This is very true. I operate from Mlolongo area & live in Mountainview and mostly the traffic is btw those said place. I'd bet my last cent if those bypasses are complete, we would experience less traffic on Msa Rd. esp of those aagghh! transit trucks
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#19 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:25:15 PM
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'Nairobi-Thika Rd' is of more importance to the city of Nairobi than 'Nairobi-Nakuru Highway'.

Compare the number of passengers, PSV vehicles, trade / business into Nairobi from the two roads and you will understand why Thika Rd was given priority.

See project portfolio below from ADB - one of the financiers.

http://www.afdb.org/en/p...io/project/p-ke-db0-018/
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#20 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 5:41:19 PM
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Kenyan Oracle, i would tend to agree with you except you left out an important aspect. That is unplanned buildings / estaes coming up.Looking at kile/kilimani even the super high way will not help the intended purpose unless we start thinking about urban planning.
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