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Importing a used car from Japan
Tebes
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:15:50 PM
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@JKmwatha,
How do you get the customs value, do you depreciate CRSP before removing taxation and mark-up or after?
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JkMwatha
#12 Posted : Friday, May 21, 2010 12:13:49 PM
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Tebes wrote:
@JKmwatha,
How do you get the customs value, do you depreciate CRSP before removing taxation and mark-up or after?


@Tebes
the custom value is the value after depreciation

The total taxes are as follows

Import duty : CIF price x 25%
Excise duty : (CIF price + Import duty) x 20%
VAT : (CIF price + Import duty + Excise duty) x 16%


Thats how you get the final figure. Does it make sense?

I get the feeling KRA try to make it as complicated as possible.
bartum
#13 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2011 1:08:01 PM
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Tebes wrote:
@JKmwatha,
How do you get the customs value, do you depreciate CRSP before removing taxation and mark-up or after?

nissan ad van for fob $1100 in japan. How is it?
mukiha
#14 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2011 9:32:40 AM
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JkMwatha wrote:
Tebes wrote:
@JKmwatha,
How do you get the customs value, do you depreciate CRSP before removing taxation and mark-up or after?


@Tebes
the custom value is the value after depreciation

The total taxes are as follows

Import duty : CIF price x 25%
Excise duty : (CIF price + Import duty) x 20%
VAT : (CIF price + Import duty + Excise duty) x 16%


Thats how you get the final figure. Does it make sense?

I get the feeling KRA try to make it as complicated as possible.

Actually, they try to make it as FAIR as possible... then the calculation becomes complicated.

Fair because, the depreciation is done after the taxes in the CRSP are removed - that avoids double taxation.

Thus the procedure is:

1] Determine CRSP
2] Remove import duty and tax component from CRSP to get the Current C&F value
3] Depreciate the current C&F value by 10% per year to get the taxable C&F value
4] Use the taxable C&F value to calculate the taxes - the taxes are compounded on each other as required by the law [not a KRA rule]
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mukiha
#15 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2011 9:35:51 AM
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bartum wrote:
Tebes wrote:
@JKmwatha,
How do you get the customs value, do you depreciate CRSP before removing taxation and mark-up or after?

nissan ad van for fob $1100 in japan. How is it?

@bartum; the price you pay for the car does NOT come into the equation!

Down load this Excel calculator and work it out for yourself:
CRPS: www.revenue.go.ke/notice...df2011/CRSP-JAN-2011.xls

TAX CALC: http://www.revenue.go.ke...1/Valuation-template.xls
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alikujia
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:32:57 AM
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@mukiha, jkmwatha,
Need some help:

There doesnt seem to be CRSP for older car models. Is it really correct that, for instance a Rav4 1999 which has different engine and chasis details is charged current Rav4 model CRSP?

Not an expert in these matters but I would think those two details would be what distinguishes two models from same manufacturer?

this is for payment of previously exempted vehicle.

alikujia
#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:49:28 PM
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alikujia wrote:
@mukiha, jkmwatha,
Need some help:

There doesnt seem to be CRSP for older car models. Is it really correct that, for instance a Rav4 1999 which has different engine and chasis details is charged current Rav4 model CRSP?

Not an expert in these matters but I would think those two details would be what distinguishes two models from same manufacturer?

this is for payment of previously exempted vehicle.


Tebes
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 12:41:24 PM
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alikujia wrote:
@mukiha, jkmwatha,
Need some help:

There doesnt seem to be CRSP for older car models. Is it really correct that, for instance a Rav4 1999 which has different engine and chasis details is charged current Rav4 model CRSP?

Not an expert in these matters but I would think those two details would be what distinguishes two models from same manufacturer?

this is for payment of previously exempted vehicle.


1999 models will not be accepted(8year age rule). Neither will those of 2000-2003. Choose from 2004.
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alikujia
#19 Posted : Thursday, June 02, 2011 2:26:13 PM
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Tebes wrote:
alikujia wrote:
@mukiha, jkmwatha,
Need some help:

There doesnt seem to be CRSP for older car models. Is it really correct that, for instance a Rav4 1999 which has different engine and chasis details is charged current Rav4 model CRSP?

Not an expert in these matters but I would think those two details would be what distinguishes two models from same manufacturer?

this is for payment of previously exempted vehicle.


1999 models will not be accepted(8year age rule). Neither will those of 2000-2003. Choose from 2004.

Thanks@Tebes,
But as per my last paragraph, needed info is for duty pay for a vehicle already registered locally duty had been officially exempted.

The duty is being paid now because of change of ownership. Question is: which crsp to use? current rav4? which i believe has much higher figure compared to the old type?
JkMwatha
#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:30:33 PM
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alikujia wrote:
.......


being paid now because of change of ownership. Question is: which crsp to use? current rav4? which i believe has much higher figure compared to the old type?



In essence CRSP indicates Current Retail...
If you import a 2004 Rav4, the CRSP used is for the newer shape (2006 onwards)....

As for your previously imported Rav4, I believe the same will apply but just further devalued... according to number years...

Does that make sense?

(My opinion... not authoritative)
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