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Uchumi resume trading 31st may
Ka-Dry
#21 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:07:09 AM
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I guess anything between 7 and 8 bob will be fair. If 5/= I'll jump in violoently
Tommy
#22 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09:04 AM
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Kaffir wrote:
I sincerely dont see it settling under 15shs. I would also pick up any shares under 10bob, on the 1st day.

This is wishful thinking.
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
Kirika
#23 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:25:55 AM
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Is there anyone with a mix of indicators as basic as EPS.

If i can have the EPS, then and only then can i decide to buy.
Cde Monomotapa
#24 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:31:07 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
How many shares does this company have?

Ka-Dry
#25 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:36:04 AM
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EPS half year 0.61 to 31st dec 2010
EPS for full year is 4.81 for June 2010.
mukiha
#26 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:34:08 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
My survey puts uchumi among the most expensive supermarkets to shop in,uchumi is not stable and still needs a partner and competition without huge capital will be a test...my best offer 2bob

You cannot make that conclusion by simply observing the prices on its shelves.... Serena is one of the most expensive hotels in Nairobi, but that doesn't make TPS unstable!
Look at the B/S then make your judgement.
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#27 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:53:22 AM
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Ka-Dry wrote:
EPS half year 0.61 to 31st dec 2010
EPS for full year is 4.81 for June 2010.


You do realise the shares you are using to calculate this are Debts turned into shares in that most of the majority share holders will be waiting for that one year to offload their stakes.

'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
the deal
#28 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 11:11:59 AM
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Well my blog http://contrarianinvestingkenya.blogspot.com will carry a research report on Uchumi's return and the tough road ahead...for starters NAV is Ksh 5.
mkonomtupu
#29 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:05:40 PM
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well i would put my max price at Kshs 12, based on the conversion of the debenture loan at Kshs. 10 per share, the growth rate of its gross profit by average of 10-14%, reduction of the term loan from to 284m(govt debt). I'm going long-term because i want to be in retail sector i feel it's going to be the next growth sector as the east african middle class grows
@deal look to the research
mkonomtupu
#30 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:15:13 PM
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http://www.capitalfm.co....-Uchumi-case-12914.html


Now that Kirubi and his co-accused have been acquitted I guess it's time Uchumi moved on.
action!
#31 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:47:00 PM
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If I can get 5 bob, I will bail out. It's been too long.
However, if it gets to 2 bob, I will buy!
Sober
#32 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:44:23 PM
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Is there a relationship between the re listing and the court case being thrown out.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
the deal
#33 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2011 10:14:39 PM
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Excitement as Uchumi returns to the NSE: Our Analysis

I tore down Uchumi into pieces find out why Uchumi is most likely to open higher than Ksh 14.50 here http://contrarianinvesti...-returns-to-nse-our.html
StatMeister
#34 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:28:47 AM
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I was a voyager on SS Uchumi when it sunk, and am not bailing out when its resurfacing for the following reasons:

- There will be a shortage of tradable shares (total minus top 10 minus those not under CDS). Of these, not everyone will be selling

- This stock is sitting in w/o for most, no need for panic-selling

- Pre-receivership Uchumi was worth 14.5, why should profitable uchumi be worth less? The stock can be treated as a growth stock by the more patient, hence PV of future cash flows is much higher than current price
A bad day fishing is better than a good day at work
Sober
#35 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:01:57 AM
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most Uchumi shareholders even forgot that they had shares there meaning there will not be very much enthusiastic sellers.
African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
mlennyma
#36 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:08:47 AM
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There are more value stocks in the nse which are not trial and error...to hell with uchumi
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mkonomtupu
#37 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 9:20:15 AM
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[quote=the deal]Excitement as Uchumi returns to the NSE: Our Analysis

I tore down Uchumi into pieces find out why Uchumi is most likely to open higher than Ksh 14.50 here http://contrarianinvesti...returns-to-nse-our.html[/quote]


@dealApplause Applause Applause good work
How do the tax credits work?
tom_boy
#38 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:11:00 PM
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@deal, good job at your analysis though I think it could have been better. It leaves me, a layman, more confused than informed. For starters, what is 'NET AVERAGE VALUE'
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
the deal
#39 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 1:52:19 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
@deal, good job at your analysis though I think it could have been better. It leaves me, a layman, more confused than informed. For starters, what is 'NET AVERAGE VALUE'

Thats your assignment...you will never know unless you find out.
2012
#40 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 2:22:08 PM
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the deal wrote:

I tore down Uchumi into pieces find out why Uchumi is most likely to open higher than Ksh 14.50


It might open high because of excitement but it will not close the week above 8/- My reasons:

- Increase of number of shares from 180m to over 250m
- Offloading by annoyed investors who's monies have been locked up in this prison till now.
- Low confidence from new investors making it a speculative counter.

Btw, who are the new/current Directors?

BBI will solve it
:)
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