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Investment banks downgraded to brokers
Surealligator
#1 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 9:19:30 AM
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Sterling, Drummond, and someone else, probably three more were downgraded to mere brokers (Pan intended). Who are the others?

I understand the downgraded Investment Banks could not marshal 250million to be eligible for the Investment Bank status. To some extent, the Investment Bankers have been arm-twisting CMA to consider their seat at the NSE to be worth 251m.

Am now seeing Banks taking over the market left open by the downgraded Investment Banks. That will be good for Investors. Already, CSFS has reduced the commission to 1%, evidence that brokers have been fleecing regular traders at 2.1%.
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VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 10:11:12 AM
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Surealligator wrote:
Already, CSFS has reduced the commission to 1%, evidence that brokers have been fleecing regular traders at 2.1%.
Is it 1% all inclusive or 1% + statutory charges e.g. CMA, NSE, CDSC fees?
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The Merchant
#3 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 11:16:40 AM
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Its always good to have that distiction between investment banks and stockbrokers, Heck I should start a stock brokerage myself, ama aje @vvs? We can use those commissions to buy more KK!!
Now seriously, 1% is quite low, I don't think their volumes are that high to earn from a measly 1%. The only way out for this guys is to offer fee based services such as financial advisory/planning etc but the market for these services is very small/no existent. Its tough in this business fellows.
maka
#4 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 11:43:41 AM
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I agree with The Merchant there is no way you can make cash from 1% ama the,ve become like scom its a limited time offer...
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The Merchant
#5 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 12:01:55 PM
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1% commission will NOT increase the number of investors in this market.Few even notice the 2% anyway. 1% will weaken an already weak support system of brokers who are oh so important to propel this market further. No, I do not work for a broker smile
Aguytrying
#6 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 8:48:50 PM
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The Merchant wrote:
1% commission will NOT increase the number of investors in this market.Few even notice the 2% anyway. 1% will weaken an already weak support system of brokers who are oh so important to propel this market further. No, I do not work for a broker smile


But tell you what it will do... make it easier for existing investors switch to CFCFS. Their added services make them head and shoulders above the rest...ie activelite, access to mystocks plus and now lowest fees (though only till 31st may)
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QW25071985
#7 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 9:05:47 PM
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indeed this 1% commission offer has no effect..how many day traders do we have in kenya.Most of the common mwananchi just buy stocks ( coz a friend also bought,coz its hyped e.t.c) and leave it for a while.
so basically the 1% reduction in fees is just not that much to consider when moving to the broker.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly did i mention its actually an offer ?????hahahhaahah.
make u wonder who are they targeting w/ this offer...
Aguytrying
#8 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 9:24:33 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
indeed this 1% commission offer has no effect..how many day traders do we have in kenya.Most of the common mwananchi just buy stocks ( coz a friend also bought,coz its hyped e.t.c) and leave it for a while.
so basically the 1% reduction in fees is just not that much to consider when moving to the broker.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly did i mention its actually an offer ?????hahahhaahah.
make u wonder who are they targeting w/ this offer...


seems you are no longer at cfc?
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
QW25071985
#9 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 9:48:02 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
QW25071985 wrote:
indeed this 1% commission offer has no effect..how many day traders do we have in kenya.Most of the common mwananchi just buy stocks ( coz a friend also bought,coz its hyped e.t.c) and leave it for a while.
so basically the 1% reduction in fees is just not that much to consider when moving to the broker.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly did i mention its actually an offer ?????hahahhaahah.
make u wonder who are they targeting w/ this offer...


seems you are no longer at cfc?


hehehhe. i have no beef with cfc. its just that this offer is kind of misplaced.but otherwise they are tops. i still emphasize they need to secure their website (activelite) more.otherwise its a hackers playground...
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