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Why are Kenyans obsessed with service industry?
KenyanLyrics
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:44:07 PM
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Despite the well established fact that product businesses are so much more profitable than service businesses, Kenyans still flock to do service business. We are truly addicted to services, and this is not an opinion. The fact is service industry contributes next to 63% of our GDP, and that 37% of product industry is the preserve of Indian and Caucasian expatriates. I am of the opinion that a Kenya's economy cannot move forward unless we focus on PRODUCTION. Otherwise we will always be strongarmed by the producers who we rely on to provide our services to.

So, why, despite this well-known business reality, are Kenyans so focused on service industry?
KenyanLyrics
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2011 6:50:57 PM
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PS: if you are not clear on the distinction between service and product business, a service business is basically one where you provide something intangible, and a product business is simply one where you provide something tangible
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#3 Posted : Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:05:51 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
Despite the well established fact that product businesses are so much more profitable than service businesses, Kenyans still flock to do service business. We are truly addicted to services, and this is not an opinion. The fact is service industry contributes next to 63% of our GDP, and that 37%............

So, why, despite this well-known business reality, are Kenyans so focused on service industry?


I don't know where you got this but aprx 64% of world economy is served by service industry; so you're either making an assumption that product business( manufacturing industry) is more profitable or you down right don't know what you're writing. Go back to your economics and read harder, look through NSE and see which companies do better.
KenyanLyrics
#4 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 12:48:44 AM
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1. Even though 64% of the world economy is service industry, the growth still comes from the production side. Production = wealth creation = sustainable growth. Service industry growth is minute in comparison.
2. Product business is not just manufacturing industry. As I said before, it is any business that deals in tangible goods. In that respect, even NMG, Safaricom, Access Kenya and the like are product businesses
3. My basic economics tells me that product business is not only more profitable, but it has way more growth potential than service business
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#5 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 10:30:52 AM
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1) Ponder this:our maize farmers (producers), despite breaking their backs doing all the hard farming work, still rake in less than the middlemen (service industry)who merely buy from the farms and transport it to a wider market.
2) Production, where not automated, is no walk in the park and costs an arm and a leg in financial and non-financial terms vis-a-vis service industry.

Drunkard
#6 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 5:16:02 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
1. Even though 64% of the world economy is service industry, the growth still comes from the production side. Production = wealth creation = sustainable growth. Service industry growth is minute in comparison.
2. Product business is not just manufacturing industry. As I said before, it is any business that deals in tangible goods. In that respect, even NMG, Safaricom, Access Kenya and the like are product businesses
3. My basic economics tells me that product business is not only more profitable, but it has way more growth potential than service business

Your economics must be very basics because real economics tells us that service industry grew from almost zero to 64% of world economy within the last century. If your basic economics had cover how businesses grow and ventures and enters new markets, then we wouldn't have this discussion.

It is also very incorrect for you to try to redefine product business to fit what you want it to be. Safaricom is not in anyway a product business, Safaricom generates it's revenue by the sell of phone services not the sell of phones themselve that makes it a service business,nokia would now be in product business, I hope that is clear.
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#7 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 5:54:24 PM
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@kenyalyrics, Safaricom and NMG are in not service industries?

I don't get itThink

Safcom sells me airtime-nothing tangible!

NMG gives me news and entertainment. They sell advertising space...nothing tangible!
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#8 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 5:57:47 PM
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BTW, service industry has lower overheads and thus it's easier to start and operate.

Compare 2 firms in ICT. One dealing in hardware sales and another in software. The sales for hardware could be higher but so will the costs(including additional storage, pilferage other stock losses and insurance!)

With difficulty in financing, one is better off in service!

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madhaquer
#9 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 7:46:54 PM
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A product based business has lots of barriers of entry. The main one being the capital costs. It costs lots of money to setup a factory to manufacture anything. Due to technology, the production levels in most industries are very high and the main form of leverage to avoid going down is either a regulator or technology or scope of market. In a competitive environment, the risks become very high and therefore the question you ask about 'why, despite this well-known business reality, are Kenyans so focused on service industry? ' answers itself.
Let us assume that today you try to start a pharmaceutical plant to make a product competing with Panadol. Even a small factory will easily produce 1/2 a million tablets a week. This factory's monthly production is more than the potential market in Kenya. It has to grow it's market geographically. Now assume there are no regulatory barriers and the business expands into the rest of Africa. The factory needs some upgrading for business continuity and a huge marketing, distribution and supply chain system in place. All this for a product that is going to compete in an already mature market ?
Just the capex costs make this a non starter. No bank analyst or venture capitalist will finance this venture.

Point is, the world has advanced technologically to a level where the big product brands can produce at a scale large enough to supply a whole region. Any new entrant would have to come in with a 'unique selling point' and be ready to cough huge capex.

Compare this to a bunch of accountants and auditors who meet in a pub and decide to start an auditing firm. All they need is office space and some professional marketing skills. They can grow the business by hiring more associates on the fly, they can grow regionally by hiring and leasing space and they can shrink just as easily. The initial risk is minimal. Do they need to approach a bank with their business plan? No! Do they need to worry about regulation & competition? Yes but the scope of operations can scale to adjust to their client base hence they can survive/risk and not get burned.

If you want a proctor and gamble or a johnson & johnson in Kenya, the regulator, the banks and the market needs to work with you on that. Hope this answers your question.
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#10 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 8:51:12 PM
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madhaquer wrote:
A product based business has lots of barriers of entry. The main one being the capital costs. It costs lots of money to setup a factory to manufacture anything. Due to technology, the production levels in most industries are very high and the main form of leverage to avoid going down is either a regulator or technology or scope of market. In a competitive environment, the risks become very high and therefore the question you ask about 'why, despite this well-known business reality, are Kenyans so focused on service industry? ' answers itself.
Let us assume that today you try to start a pharmaceutical plant to make a product competing with Panadol. Even a small factory will easily produce 1/2 a million tablets a week. This factory's monthly production is more than the potential market in Kenya. It has to grow it's market geographically. Now assume there are no regulatory barriers and the business expands into the rest of Africa. The factory needs some upgrading for business continuity and a huge marketing, distribution and supply chain system in place. All this for a product that is going to compete in an already mature market ?
Just the capex costs make this a non starter. No bank analyst or venture capitalist will finance this venture.

Point is, the world has advanced technologically to a level where the big product brands can produce at a scale large enough to supply a whole region. Any new entrant would have to come in with a 'unique selling point' and be ready to cough huge capex.

Compare this to a bunch of accountants and auditors who meet in a pub and decide to start an auditing firm. All they need is office space and some professional marketing skills. They can grow the business by hiring more associates on the fly, they can grow regionally by hiring and leasing space and they can shrink just as easily. The initial risk is minimal. Do they need to approach a bank with their business plan? No! Do they need to worry about regulation & competition? Yes but the scope of operations can scale to adjust to their client base hence they can survive/risk and not get burned.

If you want a proctor and gamble or a johnson & johnson in Kenya, the regulator, the banks and the market needs to work with you on that. Hope this answers your question.


Great explanation..... couldn't do that myself.
KenyanLyrics
#11 Posted : Friday, May 06, 2011 11:32:24 PM
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Actually I thought that was a very flimsy explanation. What I see here is a lust for quick money that prevents Kenyans from seeing the bigger picture. I stick by my mantra that no entrepreneur worth his salt would blame lack of capital for failure
madhaquer
#12 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2011 10:33:53 AM
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KenyanLyrics, what is flimsy about the explanation. Please engage in an intellectually rewarding debate. Please share with us your experience in raising capital in this country.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2011 11:29:33 AM
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madhaquer wrote:
KenyanLyrics, what is flimsy about the explanation. Please engage in an intellectually rewarding debate. Please share with us your experience in raising capital in this country.


You are wasting your fingertips and brain cells arguing with @KenyanLyrics on matters economics. He just completed High School the other day and boasts of being the youngest Wazuan. I think he would have more facts when arguing on matters Wahu, Nameless and Redsan.
KenyanLyrics
#14 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2011 4:37:29 PM
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@mdudu @madhaquer you ought to know that most Kenyans, including myself, browse the internet on mobile. This means I have to summarise some of my posts, as my phone puts a limit on the number of characters per post, and also typing on mobile is just a pain as well.
@madhaquer my business is there for all to see. I have not been capitalised. I have spent one year building a Minimum Viable Product, which has now generated enough in sales to expand both the team and the product.
Basically, the approach most people would like to take is

Find Capital>Build Final Product>Find Customers

But I believe the best way to operate is

Find Customers>Build Minimum Viable Product>Find Capital
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#15 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2011 6:04:53 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:

Basically, the approach most people would like to take is

Find Capital>Build Final Product>Find Customers

But I believe the best way to operate is

Find Customers>Build Minimum Viable Product>Find Capital


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#16 Posted : Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:51:31 PM
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I support KenyanLyrics on that.Capital should never be an obstacle.Most people want to start a biz and make 100k a month pap instead of buying a few products to start with and grow rich slowly.
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#17 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 5:01:23 PM
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@kenyanlyrics & @birdman....The point is that barriers of entry make the service industry a much better option. It does not make one grow rich quickly as you suggest. The service industry also takes time to grow ie growing the client base and reaching the critical mass of clients. However, while growing slowly due to lower overheads you can sleep better at night. Stop pushing a point down our throats then refusing to engage in a proper argument.
And how exactly do you find customers, build a product then look for capital? Give me an example if I want to start a phamarceutical company with Kshs 10,000 in my pocket.Im waiting @kenyanlyrics.
KenyanLyrics
#18 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2011 8:25:51 PM
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Personally I wouldn't venture into that business, but for the sake of argument, here's how I would approach it:
1. Find a niche ailment that has low competition but high enough demand to satisfy a small business's needs e.g anal boils.
2. Build a minimum viable product. No flashy stuff, don't waste your time with too much legal mumbo jumbo, just make a pill that works. To build this prototype shouldn't be too expensive. Fund this using friends, family and fools.
3. Test the market using this prototype. Get at least three retailers to place an order for your product.
4. Expand in your niche once you prove the viability of your product through sales(if it doesn't sell well, you can cut your losses at this point). Use the profits and orders off of that initial Minimum Viable Product to plead your case for financing for expansion. Become the anal boils go-to guy. Now you can do those legal things. There you go, you are now the proud owner of an anal boils pharmaceutical.
Drunkard
#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2011 7:09:09 PM
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@KenyanLyrics.. I agree with you on those approaches but the problem is, market forces cannot let you approach a venture this way, because the pointof interaction of high enough demand and low firm concentration, sits the monopolist with large economy of scale and scope.
KenyanLyrics
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:21:59 AM
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@Drunkard you will be surprised how slow the biggest firms are to adapt to change. Nimbleness is one of the key advantages of a small company, and is commonly used to get a foothold in a market with big players
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