Taking cognizance of the good intentions of Ric Dees, Kingfisher, Pablo, Vision 2030, et all - I start this new thread but retain the main title and throw my weight behind Ric Dee's initial pledge...we cannot let that gesture and efforts by other members go to waste.

I find that when the date is too far off, planning becomes tricky and also knowing about one's availability. So @Ric Dees, as the starter of the previous thread - please can you propose a nearby convenient date and a location within 15km of Nairobi - I am sure members will make it.

Next to your pledge and other pledges I will make a similar one and throw in one crate for good measure

Once we have a date and a venue, I think we are good to go(at).

Also, now we know who the hecklers are and those giving lip service so we also know how to navigate around any side shows that detract from the course...

'User', you are really poundfoolish. I remember meeting you in kitengela ati going for the wazua mbuzi. Yu should be telling members here that you spent your funds on travelling to a non starter mbuzi ili we refund for you. You should have followed the link to know the mbuzi had been called off. Yu should be usered once more.