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hisah
#801 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:57:59 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=hisah]1. Eurozone defaults are a reality with or without PIIGS... Global recovery
2. S&P downgrades US debt outlook to negative and many other 1st world nations... Global recovery
3. Global food inflation - Global recovery
4. Gold, Silver, metals and soft commodities (food & oil) posting multi year highs - Global recovery

And since all the above is true...why is no.4 happening? si kama uchumi ni mbaya demand & prices for commodities should follow down. Enyewe, what did we learn economics for. Thanks bro.

All those QE 1.0 and 2.0 are really messing up things. nkt!


No 4. is happening because money is turning into its real intrinsic value; papers with no value. Read the latest FAO reports on food demand/supply, it's lower than 2007, but food is expensive due to 'global' demand as per the policy makers and 'analysts' truths...

And this is the baltic dry index yearly chart which shows shipping demand for metals commodities. Metal prices are up since 'global' demand is up??? Yet again the 'truths' of professional analysts and policy makers smile



And for point 2 above on S&P downgrading the US debt outlook, just have a look at the US Treasury details on their debt limit. It has been exceeded...

http://www.treasurydirec.../charts/charts_debt.htm

I have to say that the masters of these ponzi-conomics are good magicians having been able to keep the whole global financial system squeaking with all the 'good' statistics around that redefine the term outright lies to gospel truths smile

The verdict and choice is yours as per what you believe should be the truth of the whole situation.


$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#802 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:02:39 PM
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http://www.aleakinparadise.com/ - The Swiss Whistleblower's story...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
karanjakinuthia
#803 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:31:49 AM
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Dear Friends,

The world may be going to hell in a handbasket but we can always have a good laugh at it all.

So, in case your broker is bamboozling you with financial lingo, here's what they all mean:

Advertisement: A tool used by business to get money out of people that don't have it, for something that they don't need.

Alimony: Two person mistake paid by one.

Auditor: Person that arrives after battle to finish off the wounded.

Bank: A place that will lend you money (and an umbrella insurance plan) only when you don't need it.

Bear Market: Eight months when the kids get no allowance, the wife gets no jewelry and the husband gets no sex.

Broker: The person that you trust with thousands of your hard earned dollars. Hello!

Broker: What my broker has made me or Poorer than you were last year.

Budget: Written proof that you can't afford the things you want.

Bull Market: A random market movement causing an investor to mistake himself for a financial genius.

Cash Flow: The movement your money makes as it disappears down the toilet.

CEO: Chief Embezzlement Officer.

CFO: Chief Fraud Officer.

Day Trader: A more socially acceptable gambling addict.

Discounted Stock: A stock that is less expensive than last month and more expensive than it will be next month.

EBIT: Earnings Before Irregularities and Tampering.

EBITDA: Earnings Before I Tricked the Dumb Auditor.

EPS: Eventual Prison Sentence.

FRS: Fantasy Reporting Standards.

Institutional Investor: An incompletely successful investor who is now locked up in a mental institute.

Market Correction: The day after you buy stocks.

Momentum Investing: The fine art of buying high and selling low.

P/E Ratio: The percentage of investors wetting their pants as the market keeps crashing.

Profit: A man that prays to God.

Stock Analyst: The idiot who just downgraded your stock.

Stock Market Correction: The term your broker uses for a financial market crash.

Stock Split: When your former wife and her lawyer split all your assets equally between themselves.

Value Investing: The art of buying low and selling lower.


Enjoy your Easter!


Kind regards,

Kinuthia Karanja
karanjakinuthia@hotmail.com

hisah
#804 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:53:30 PM
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@KK - This one
Market Correction: The day after you buy stocks.

and this one as so on point...
Value Investing: The art of buying low and selling lower.

Something about Ireland by Max Keiser -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5zXU1bQ3tQ - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/w...uTE&feature=related - Part 2

Just for laughs, but very relevant.
Hilter gets a margin call - http://www.youtube.com/w...ugc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38bEi8wnXJA



$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ceinz
#805 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 4:14:11 PM
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Location: Sea of Transquility
karanjakinuthia wrote:


Auditor: Person that arrives after battle to finish off the wounded.

Budget: Written proof that you can't afford the things you want.

Market Correction: The day after you buy stocks.



Lolest u made my day.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
“small step for man”
hisah
#806 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 6:23:40 PM
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I'm looking at the XLF and it is now a bear setup. Stocks I'll be shorting soon the stocks below. Financials are turning bearish...

JPM - JP Morgan aka JP Morgue
USB - US Bancorp
WFC - Wells Fargo
BK - Bank Of New York Mellon and
GS - Goldman Sachs aka Goldman skunk aka Le squid...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
erifloss
#807 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:47:02 PM
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Location: Nairobi
hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=hisah]1. Eurozone defaults are a reality with or without PIIGS... Global recovery
2. S&P downgrades US debt outlook to negative and many other 1st world nations... Global recovery
3. Global food inflation - Global recovery
4. Gold, Silver, metals and soft commodities (food & oil) posting multi year highs - Global recovery

And since all the above is true...why is no.4 happening? si kama uchumi ni mbaya demand & prices for commodities should follow down. Enyewe, what did we learn economics for. Thanks bro.

All those QE 1.0 and 2.0 are really messing up things. nkt!


No 4. is happening because money is turning into its real intrinsic value; papers with no value. Read the latest FAO reports on food demand/supply, it's lower than 2007, but food is expensive due to 'global' demand as per the policy makers and 'analysts' truths...

And this is the baltic dry index yearly chart which shows shipping demand for metals commodities. Metal prices are up since 'global' demand is up??? Yet again the 'truths' of professional analysts and policy makers smile



And for point 2 above on S&P downgrading the US debt outlook, just have a look at the US Treasury details on their debt limit. It has been exceeded...

http://www.treasurydirec.../charts/charts_debt.htm

I have to say that the masters of these ponzi-conomics are good magicians having been able to keep the whole global financial system squeaking with all the 'good' statistics around that redefine the term outright lies to gospel truths smile

The verdict and choice is yours as per what you believe should be the truth of the whole situation.



@cde, to answer 4. The US having the monopoly of the dollar its hard to realy know the true value of the dollar. Look at US govt debt and it gives you a signal of where they might be heading to no wonder the BRIC economies are trying to push for a new reserve currency. Keenly look at who or which country is highly trading in gold and it will truly show you what they think of the currency they hold. While the US is heavily dependent on credit some of its large banks are still in trouble, though i've not seen the numbers yet, analysts expected a drop in Citigroups earnings(3rd largest US bank). I do believe that if China continues to play its currency devaluation games, it's more hard times for the US economy & the greenback. Just a btw, AUD hit a 29 yr high against the dollar (Australia's economy relies heavily on mining)
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
youcan'tstopusnow
#808 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:02:07 PM
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Joined: 3/24/2010
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Location: Black Africa
China Mobile surpasses 600m subscribers.
China Mobile, the world's
largest mobile operator,
has surpassed 600 million
subscribers after increasing
its number of customers in
rural areas.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13153351
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Gadaffi
#809 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:37:43 PM
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@ all,

does anyone know how many individual investors there are at the NSE???
erifloss
#810 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2011 8:45:51 PM
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erifloss wrote:
hisah wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
[quote=hisah]1. Eurozone defaults are a reality with or without PIIGS... Global recovery
2. S&P downgrades US debt outlook to negative and many other 1st world nations... Global recovery
3. Global food inflation - Global recovery
4. Gold, Silver, metals and soft commodities (food & oil) posting multi year highs - Global recovery

And since all the above is true...why is no.4 happening? si kama uchumi ni mbaya demand & prices for commodities should follow down. Enyewe, what did we learn economics for. Thanks bro.

All those QE 1.0 and 2.0 are really messing up things. nkt!


No 4. is happening because money is turning into its real intrinsic value; papers with no value. Read the latest FAO reports on food demand/supply, it's lower than 2007, but food is expensive due to 'global' demand as per the policy makers and 'analysts' truths...

And this is the baltic dry index yearly chart which shows shipping demand for metals commodities. Metal prices are up since 'global' demand is up??? Yet again the 'truths' of professional analysts and policy makers smile



And for point 2 above on S&P downgrading the US debt outlook, just have a look at the US Treasury details on their debt limit. It has been exceeded...

http://www.treasurydirec.../charts/charts_debt.htm

I have to say that the masters of these ponzi-conomics are good magicians having been able to keep the whole global financial system squeaking with all the 'good' statistics around that redefine the term outright lies to gospel truths smile

The verdict and choice is yours as per what you believe should be the truth of the whole situation.



@cde, to answer 4. The US having the monopoly of the dollar its hard to realy know the true value of the dollar. Look at US govt debt and it gives you a signal of where they might be heading to no wonder the BRIC economies are trying to push for a new reserve currency. Keenly look at who or which country is highly trading in gold and it will truly show you what they think of the currency they hold. While the US is heavily dependent on credit some of its large banks are still in trouble, though i've not seen the numbers yet, analysts expected a drop in Citigroups earnings(3rd largest US bank). I do believe that if China continues to play its currency devaluation games, it's more hard times for the US economy & the greenback. Just a btw, AUD hit a 29 yr high against the dollar (Australia's economy relies heavily on mining)

Gold price hitting highs due to currency uncertainty coz of the US debt.
www.reuters.com/article/...us-idUSTRE73786N20110421
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
youcan'tstopusnow
#811 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 9:47:40 AM
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hisah, it is said that people tend to eat more during tough times
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13160649
Kenchic must be making a killing then in these sides, I supposesmile
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Cde Monomotapa
#812 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 10:47:24 AM
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@hisah, I think I am in full support of China's stance on the yuan. I think they learn't from their neighbors, the Japs, as how the yen is treatd like a comm.sex workers by forex traders. In addition, China is in support of its exporters so it pays to have the yuan as it is. I-phone...designed in California, manufactured in China...I get it!
hisah
#813 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 1:03:24 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
hisah, it is said that people tend to eat more during tough times
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13160649
Kenchic must be making a killing then in these sides, I supposesmile


I wonder where they get the means to afford expensive food to eat more...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#814 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 1:13:43 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
@hisah, I think I am in full support of China's stance on the yuan. I think they learn't from their neighbors, the Japs, as how the yen is treatd like a comm.sex workers by forex traders. In addition, China is in support of its exporters so it pays to have the yuan as it is. I-phone...designed in California, manufactured in China...I get it!


The Chinese dollar peg was very smart. It permits them to armtwist the debtor just a thing any banker would die for... But the idea of not accepting the yuan to float in forex markets was the smartest. This permits the PBOC to be in full control of the yuan and the dollar peg.

Back to current reality, are you aware there has been 3 days of fuel cost protests in Shanghai this week? Is the red army no longer scary to the docile chinese?
These socioeconomic trends in China are pointing to further chaos in coming months as the gubberment struggles with taming inflation. The PBOC has hiked rates enough times this year plus the reserve funds, but not working...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#815 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 1:22:30 PM
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As gold and silver continue their paper money meltup trends i.e. all currencies are down vs them, as well as global stocks priced in gold or silver, the state of Utah has signed a bill to permit gold/silver as legal tender.

Yaani Utah wameamua kutumia dhahabu na fedha kama pesa?! That is an outright vote of no confidence for their own currency - the US dollar?! What the heavens???


http://abcnews.go.com/Po...ndard/story?id=13377409

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
QW25071985
#816 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 1:40:46 PM
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Gold is headed higher.Target 1575 . look at image :

http://marketglance.file...old3.png?w=640&h=515
Cde Monomotapa
#817 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 2:33:59 PM
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hisah wrote:
As gold and silver continue their paper money meltup trends i.e. all currencies are down vs them, as well as global stocks priced in gold or silver, the state of Utah has signed a bill to permit gold/silver as legal tender.

Yaani Utah wameamua kutumia dhahabu na fedha kama pesa?! That is an outright vote of no confidence for their own currency - the US dollar?! What the heavens???


http://abcnews.go.com/Po...ndard/story?id=13377409


Wah!! Boss..umechangamsha my Easter! Ati riots in China?? Kweli nikugwanest. The oil markets should re-think their over pricing. That Utah story is even more shocking but a very good step forward. Just hope gold/silver doesn't turn into tulips.
erifloss
#818 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 7:18:42 PM
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Their's no socialist/communist society/state that has ever held up its ideologies for long when they allow a 'democratic'/liberal economy or during long periods of inflation. Its just a matter of time before the Billionaire/Millionaire entrepreneurs of Chinese descent get fed up with the other 'controls' of the communist party, Chinese citizenry get fed up of the high cost of living due to inflation and low wages & American citizens realise that to survive they'll have to start accepting & doing jobs transfered to China coz the companies are back due to rising employee costs in China.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
hisah
#819 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2011 11:44:58 PM
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I've noticed the same pattern repeating on US major equity markets though most look like forming an inverse H&S pattern. If so new 2011 highs coming up and the dollar will continue to tank and gold/silver/oil & other commodities continue higher.
If it plays out like May 2010, at least 10% plus correction in all gains looms while the dollar does the inverse.
I see the latter coz of Greece. If they seek a 2nd bailout, possible, a selloff can't be avoided.

http://blogs.forbes.com/...o-last-year-for-stocks/

@Cde - gold/silver as tulips bubble can only be possible if one dollar is worth an ounce of both...

The Greece pretext article - blame the citigroup trader's rumour and make him the fall guy. I love politics...

http://www.guardian.co.u...-over-greek-debt-rumours
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#820 Posted : Saturday, April 23, 2011 8:19:18 AM
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Will Toyota car users afford expensive spares this year...?
Btw this is very 'bullish' for japanese car makers & japanese economy as per some 'analysts' reviews...

http://www.nytimes.com/2...ess/global/23toyota.html
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